jr15aggie said:

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I remember years ago giving up a late first to Buffalo for a 2nd and next year's 1st.

Expectations were that Buffalo would be horrible again and it would be a top 5 pick. Turned out to be a late teens pick.

I think that pick ended up being Marcus Spears and we were the team that had the horrible season and used our pick on D Ware.

So yeah, no idea what those #1s will be. Very possible for GB to have a bad season one of those years and it's a top 15 pick.

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Tksymm7 said:

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I just don't understand why people are so distraught over this.

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Tksymm7 said:

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I just don't understand why people are so distraught over this. This team wasn't winning the Super Bowl this year or next or probably the year after with Parsons. Jerry has refused to invest in their weakest areas to make that a reality. But now he zags, addresses the weakest area of the team, and tries to insure a different/better future. I guarantee if the cowboys blow their load to go up in the draft and get a future QB people will change their tune pretty damn quickly.

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DannyDuberstein said:

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Another note - Myles Garrett has been amazing. All you can ask for. What has that gotten Cleveland? Zippo. You gotta have a QB and WR combo that can move it. Dak-CD-Pickens are what you have to lean into. Gotta stay healthy, but they are your chance over the next 3 years.

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DannyDuberstein said:

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I'm not convinced they effectively spend the cap $$$, but I fully trust McClay to use those 4 #1s he's about to have

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DannyDuberstein said:

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I am amused by the fact that people universally thought this team was going to suck with Micah and now they are absolutely freaking out about them trying something different.

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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Tksymm7 said:

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I just don't understand why people are so distraught over this. This team wasn't winning the Super Bowl this year or next or probably the year after with Parsons. Jerry has refused to invest in their weakest areas to make that a reality. But now he zags, addresses the weakest area of the team, and tries to insure a different/better future. I guarantee if the cowboys blow their load to go up in the draft and get a future QB people will change their tune pretty damn quickly.

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I can't speak for everyone, but with respect to the media and especially Dallas based media a lot of this is anger. Anger at Jerry for putting them in an impossible position. They like when Jerry does things so obviously dumb or rash that nobody could rationally defend it, and they get to be as negative as they want with no potential repercussions.

However, with this move they have two options: Acknowledge that it at least has the potential to be a good move, and thus violating their "never compliment Jerry" rule and contradict their past comments, or hold their ground and argue anyone who thinks this is a good move is an idiot. That is so obviously a bad faith, biased take on this instance that it gives the game away and makes them look silly. Nobody honestly believes there isn't a rational argument for how this move works out for Dallas, because we've seen this exact sort of move benefit multiple teams throughout league history. It's just patently absurd.

Jerry put them in a tight spot and they are seething. Go watch some of the YouTube videos put out this evening by the various pundits. A lot of it is blind rage.



I've never seen Florio that unhinged. He looks like he wants to strangle Jerry, and it's not because he just loves Micah Parsons in blue. It's because he has benefited a lot from his anti-Jerry takes, and now he has to take a position people are rightly mocking in the comments.

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Ag Natural said:

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As much as I hate Jerry's press conferences, his rationale for this move basically sounds like he's on this thread. He literally says they believe the reason they haven't had playoff success is their inability to stop the run. Micah is elite, but the better teams can easily neutralize him by running at him.

Nobody wants to give Jerry credit for trying to get better. But he did say this isn't working so we need to try something different. 82 years olds don't often say these things. I don't care about Jerry enough to make him the reason to hate this move. With all I know about this team I truly believe they were a NASCAR fast front running team and Schotty wants to be a methodical power team. This is a move toward that.

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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I wasn't talking to or about you. Calm down.

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zgolfz85 said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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Tksymm7 said:

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I just don't understand why people are so distraught over this. This team wasn't winning the Super Bowl this year or next or probably the year after with Parsons. Jerry has refused to invest in their weakest areas to make that a reality. But now he zags, addresses the weakest area of the team, and tries to insure a different/better future. I guarantee if the cowboys blow their load to go up in the draft and get a future QB people will change their tune pretty damn quickly.

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I can't speak for everyone, but with respect to the media and especially Dallas based media a lot of this is anger. Anger at Jerry for putting them in an impossible position. They like when Jerry does things so obviously dumb or rash that nobody could rationally defend it, and they get to be as negative as they want with no potential repercussions.

However, with this move they have two options: Acknowledge that it at least has the potential to be a good move, and thus violating their "never compliment Jerry" rule and contradict their past comments, or hold their ground and argue anyone who thinks this is a good move is an idiot. That is so obviously a bad faith, biased take on this instance that it gives the game away and makes them look silly. Nobody honestly believes there isn't a rational argument for how this move works out for Dallas, because we've seen this exact sort of move benefit multiple teams throughout league history. It's just patently absurd.

Jerry put them in a tight spot and they are seething. Go watch some of the YouTube videos put out this evening by the various pundits. A lot of it is blind rage.



I've never seen Florio that unhinged. He looks like he wants to strangle Jerry, and it's not because he just loves Micah Parsons in blue. It's because he has benefited a lot from his anti-Jerry takes, and now he has to take a position people are rightly mocking in the comments.

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Thanks but don't put me in that camp and for the rest of you, don't undermine the skeptics in here as if we're ****ing reetards. I have no more faith in the jones family to leverage what they did than I did in us making waves with the Dak/ceedee/parsons era. Sorry, but 30 years of idiocy with a couple of amazing rosters that didn't amount to anything doesn't make one "blind with rage." Don't act like it's 2001. It's 2025 and Jerry and co have blundered the team into a laughing stock of a once incredible proud franchise. I don't live in Dallas and haven't for 2 decades, but sure seems like the DFW residents still have some locals koolaid in their bellies on some of this. Laughable that being done with Jerry to the point of near hatred is a gotcha in here. Come the **** on. Strap in for another season of Philly and Washington lapping us and looking like real deal front offices, while we continue to parade around as a football team with a cartoon character dictator at the helm.

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shack009 said:

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zgolfz85 said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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Tksymm7 said:

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I just don't understand why people are so distraught over this. This team wasn't winning the Super Bowl this year or next or probably the year after with Parsons. Jerry has refused to invest in their weakest areas to make that a reality. But now he zags, addresses the weakest area of the team, and tries to insure a different/better future. I guarantee if the cowboys blow their load to go up in the draft and get a future QB people will change their tune pretty damn quickly.

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I can't speak for everyone, but with respect to the media and especially Dallas based media a lot of this is anger. Anger at Jerry for putting them in an impossible position. They like when Jerry does things so obviously dumb or rash that nobody could rationally defend it, and they get to be as negative as they want with no potential repercussions.

However, with this move they have two options: Acknowledge that it at least has the potential to be a good move, and thus violating their "never compliment Jerry" rule and contradict their past comments, or hold their ground and argue anyone who thinks this is a good move is an idiot. That is so obviously a bad faith, biased take on this instance that it gives the game away and makes them look silly. Nobody honestly believes there isn't a rational argument for how this move works out for Dallas, because we've seen this exact sort of move benefit multiple teams throughout league history. It's just patently absurd.

Jerry put them in a tight spot and they are seething. Go watch some of the YouTube videos put out this evening by the various pundits. A lot of it is blind rage.



I've never seen Florio that unhinged. He looks like he wants to strangle Jerry, and it's not because he just loves Micah Parsons in blue. It's because he has benefited a lot from his anti-Jerry takes, and now he has to take a position people are rightly mocking in the comments.

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Thanks but don't put me in that camp and for the rest of you, don't undermine the skeptics in here as if we're ****ing reetards. I have no more faith in the jones family to leverage what they did than I did in us making waves with the Dak/ceedee/parsons era. Sorry, but 30 years of idiocy with a couple of amazing rosters that didn't amount to anything doesn't make one "blind with rage." Don't act like it's 2001. It's 2025 and Jerry and co have blundered the team into a laughing stock of a once incredible proud franchise. I don't live in Dallas and haven't for 2 decades, but sure seems like the DFW residents still have some locals koolaid in their bellies on some of this. Laughable that being done with Jerry to the point of near hatred is a gotcha in here. Come the **** on. Strap in for another season of Philly and Washington lapping us and looking like real deal front offices, while we continue to parade around as a football team with a cartoon character dictator at the helm.

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I think you just made his point.

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Ag Natural said:

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zgolfz85 said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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Tksymm7 said:

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I just don't understand why people are so distraught over this. This team wasn't winning the Super Bowl this year or next or probably the year after with Parsons. Jerry has refused to invest in their weakest areas to make that a reality. But now he zags, addresses the weakest area of the team, and tries to insure a different/better future. I guarantee if the cowboys blow their load to go up in the draft and get a future QB people will change their tune pretty damn quickly.

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I can't speak for everyone, but with respect to the media and especially Dallas based media a lot of this is anger. Anger at Jerry for putting them in an impossible position. They like when Jerry does things so obviously dumb or rash that nobody could rationally defend it, and they get to be as negative as they want with no potential repercussions.

However, with this move they have two options: Acknowledge that it at least has the potential to be a good move, and thus violating their "never compliment Jerry" rule and contradict their past comments, or hold their ground and argue anyone who thinks this is a good move is an idiot. That is so obviously a bad faith, biased take on this instance that it gives the game away and makes them look silly. Nobody honestly believes there isn't a rational argument for how this move works out for Dallas, because we've seen this exact sort of move benefit multiple teams throughout league history. It's just patently absurd.

Jerry put them in a tight spot and they are seething. Go watch some of the YouTube videos put out this evening by the various pundits. A lot of it is blind rage.



I've never seen Florio that unhinged. He looks like he wants to strangle Jerry, and it's not because he just loves Micah Parsons in blue. It's because he has benefited a lot from his anti-Jerry takes, and now he has to take a position people are rightly mocking in the comments.

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Thanks but don't put me in that camp and for the rest of you, don't undermine the skeptics in here as if we're ****ing reetards. I have no more faith in the jones family to leverage what they did than I did in us making waves with the Dak/ceedee/parsons era. Sorry, but 30 years of idiocy with a couple of amazing rosters that didn't amount to anything doesn't make one "blind with rage." Don't act like it's 2001. It's 2025 and Jerry and co have blundered the team into a laughing stock of a once incredible proud franchise. I don't live in Dallas and haven't for 2 decades, but sure seems like the DFW residents still have some locals koolaid in their bellies on some of this. Laughable that being done with Jerry to the point of near hatred is a gotcha in here. Come the **** on. Strap in for another season of Philly and Washington lapping us and looking like real deal front offices, while we continue to parade around as a football team with a cartoon character dictator at the helm.

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So 30 years of idiocy with a few amazing rosters? Huh? So are you saying they lucked their way into a few good teams?

Listen, the Jones do a lot of dumb things. Mainly they talk too much and they have people on stuff who truly suck and are only there because of history (i.e. the training staff). But they've added smart people like McClay and they've done a great job drafting. Now theyve admitted the recent style of play cant win a championship and they are pivoting. Even if you think they'll screw it up, you have to admit this is a meaningful departure from the norm.

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FireAg said:

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zgolfz85 said:

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jr15aggie said:

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zgolfz85 said:

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mavsfan4ever said:

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Pignorant said:

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Sturm is saying Cowboys needed a 2nd or 3rd round pick and Edgerrin Cooper or Matthew Golden also if they were trading to an in conference rival.

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Everyone on the ticket was so dumb today. Acting like we didn't get much in return. Bob is essentially saying we should've gotten 3 first round picks (golden was just taken) and a second. Has anyone ever gotten 3 first round picks in the nfl? Not that I can think of. And he thinks we should've gotten that plus abscond or third on top? And Green Bay would then have to pay $47 per year to Micah?

That's not even close to realistic. It seems like we got more than the Khalil Mack trade (depending on how you grade Clark), and everyone was saying we wouldn't be able to get a Mack haul just a couple weeks ago.

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We would've definitely gotten more back in April during the draft though….

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I disagree. We would've still gotten 2 firsts and then maybe a 3rd or 4th rounder as icing. That's fair when the draft is weeks away.

The trade happening now landed us a pro bowl type DT because now the draft is months away. The icing went from a day 2/3 pick to a player that helps us right now.

I would have still been on board with the trade in April, but I think I prefer what happened here. We've needed an impact player at DT for a very long time.

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He'll be 30 in a month…at DT. He did make 2 pro bowls and an alternate spot as well, but again, he'll be 30 on OCt 4

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And is currently considered one of the best run stoppers in the league…

They didn't just trade for some scrub who was on the verge of sacking groceries in a week…he is a stud against the run…

Know who wasn't? Micah Parsons…

Great pass rusher…below average run stopper…

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zgolfz85 said:

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shack009 said:

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zgolfz85 said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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Tksymm7 said:

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I just don't understand why people are so distraught over this. This team wasn't winning the Super Bowl this year or next or probably the year after with Parsons. Jerry has refused to invest in their weakest areas to make that a reality. But now he zags, addresses the weakest area of the team, and tries to insure a different/better future. I guarantee if the cowboys blow their load to go up in the draft and get a future QB people will change their tune pretty damn quickly.

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I can't speak for everyone, but with respect to the media and especially Dallas based media a lot of this is anger. Anger at Jerry for putting them in an impossible position. They like when Jerry does things so obviously dumb or rash that nobody could rationally defend it, and they get to be as negative as they want with no potential repercussions.

However, with this move they have two options: Acknowledge that it at least has the potential to be a good move, and thus violating their "never compliment Jerry" rule and contradict their past comments, or hold their ground and argue anyone who thinks this is a good move is an idiot. That is so obviously a bad faith, biased take on this instance that it gives the game away and makes them look silly. Nobody honestly believes there isn't a rational argument for how this move works out for Dallas, because we've seen this exact sort of move benefit multiple teams throughout league history. It's just patently absurd.

Jerry put them in a tight spot and they are seething. Go watch some of the YouTube videos put out this evening by the various pundits. A lot of it is blind rage.



I've never seen Florio that unhinged. He looks like he wants to strangle Jerry, and it's not because he just loves Micah Parsons in blue. It's because he has benefited a lot from his anti-Jerry takes, and now he has to take a position people are rightly mocking in the comments.

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Thanks but don't put me in that camp and for the rest of you, don't undermine the skeptics in here as if we're ****ing reetards. I have no more faith in the jones family to leverage what they did than I did in us making waves with the Dak/ceedee/parsons era. Sorry, but 30 years of idiocy with a couple of amazing rosters that didn't amount to anything doesn't make one "blind with rage." Don't act like it's 2001. It's 2025 and Jerry and co have blundered the team into a laughing stock of a once incredible proud franchise. I don't live in Dallas and haven't for 2 decades, but sure seems like the DFW residents still have some locals koolaid in their bellies on some of this. Laughable that being done with Jerry to the point of near hatred is a gotcha in here. Come the **** on. Strap in for another season of Philly and Washington lapping us and looking like real deal front offices, while we continue to parade around as a football team with a cartoon character dictator at the helm.

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I think you just made his point.

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Thanks shack, but your weird love fest for jer bear and Nico had me tuning you out long ago

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shack009 said:

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zgolfz85 said:

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shack009 said:

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zgolfz85 said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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Tksymm7 said:

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I just don't understand why people are so distraught over this. This team wasn't winning the Super Bowl this year or next or probably the year after with Parsons. Jerry has refused to invest in their weakest areas to make that a reality. But now he zags, addresses the weakest area of the team, and tries to insure a different/better future. I guarantee if the cowboys blow their load to go up in the draft and get a future QB people will change their tune pretty damn quickly.

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I can't speak for everyone, but with respect to the media and especially Dallas based media a lot of this is anger. Anger at Jerry for putting them in an impossible position. They like when Jerry does things so obviously dumb or rash that nobody could rationally defend it, and they get to be as negative as they want with no potential repercussions.

However, with this move they have two options: Acknowledge that it at least has the potential to be a good move, and thus violating their "never compliment Jerry" rule and contradict their past comments, or hold their ground and argue anyone who thinks this is a good move is an idiot. That is so obviously a bad faith, biased take on this instance that it gives the game away and makes them look silly. Nobody honestly believes there isn't a rational argument for how this move works out for Dallas, because we've seen this exact sort of move benefit multiple teams throughout league history. It's just patently absurd.

Jerry put them in a tight spot and they are seething. Go watch some of the YouTube videos put out this evening by the various pundits. A lot of it is blind rage.



I've never seen Florio that unhinged. He looks like he wants to strangle Jerry, and it's not because he just loves Micah Parsons in blue. It's because he has benefited a lot from his anti-Jerry takes, and now he has to take a position people are rightly mocking in the comments.

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Thanks but don't put me in that camp and for the rest of you, don't undermine the skeptics in here as if we're ****ing reetards. I have no more faith in the jones family to leverage what they did than I did in us making waves with the Dak/ceedee/parsons era. Sorry, but 30 years of idiocy with a couple of amazing rosters that didn't amount to anything doesn't make one "blind with rage." Don't act like it's 2001. It's 2025 and Jerry and co have blundered the team into a laughing stock of a once incredible proud franchise. I don't live in Dallas and haven't for 2 decades, but sure seems like the DFW residents still have some locals koolaid in their bellies on some of this. Laughable that being done with Jerry to the point of near hatred is a gotcha in here. Come the **** on. Strap in for another season of Philly and Washington lapping us and looking like real deal front offices, while we continue to parade around as a football team with a cartoon character dictator at the helm.

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I think you just made his point.

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Thanks shack, but your weird love fest for jer bear and Nico had me tuning you out long ago

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I don't love either of them, I just don't let them ruin every waking moment of day like some people.

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