****** The Official Houston Texans Thread 2025 ******

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BoxingAg84 said:



We need to be done with the Patriot way. That tree is rotten.

Seeing Belichick's performance at North Carolina leads me to believe that most of the New England Super Bowls were due to mostly Tom Brady.
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I've defended Nick Caserio a lot on here, and in general, I think he has done a good job. HOWEVER, the way that the offensive line has been handled from a personnel perspective has been atrocious and I can't defend it at all. I don't disagree with trading Tunsil. However, the personnel moves made afterwards are remarkably bad. Going into a season depending on Laken Tomlinson and Jake Andrews is bonkers. We seem to have wasted high draft picks on Kenyon Green, Juice Scruggs and Blake Fisher. And, I like Ersery and want him to succeed, but expecting a second round pick who most scouts saw as a right tackle to come in right away and start at left tackle was a recipe for failure, especially considering our inability to develop offensive linemen.

We'll probably never know the answer, but I sure would like to know how much Caserio had to do with the Nick Caley hire. I was originally okay with it because I thought he would run a McVay-like Rams offense. Nope, this is just more and more of the Patriot way, which nobody from New England seems to understand that it doesn't work unless Tom Brady is running it. It's mind boggling to me that you fire one of the worst offensive line coaches in the country and promote his assistant coach? What do you expect to happen?

This season is over. You won't catch the Colts, and barring a massive change of direction, you aren't going to make the playoffs either. The offense is as bad as anything I can remember seeing in the NFL.

I don't know where to go just yet. For all of you who want to fire everybody, I don't think that is right either. I think Caserio has done enough good that he gets another season, but it needs to be clear that improving the offensive line is far and away the most important task this season. If the offensive line looks anything next year as it looks this season, he can take his vest somewhere else.

I don't think firing DeMeco is the solution just yet either, but he has to get the offense right.

Now, they should have left Caley on the tarmac in Seattle. He sucks. He needs to show this season that he knows how to run an offense. This will be hard to do with this line, but if we look this hopeless all year, I don't think you have a choice. It might be time for Jerrod to get a try. He can't do any worse, I don't think. I'm not a fan of Mike McDaniel (weird guy), but he has had success an OC. There has to be someone out there with a track record of running an offense that they can bring in.

The worst part to me is that they are turning CJ Stroud into David Carr. As a rookie, Stroud looked like the next great NFL QB. But since then, he has been beat up so much, that his level of play is declining. If they can't figure out how to protect him and at least have a somewhat functional run game, he will end up being a shadow of the player he could have been.
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Yup. Bill is doing a hatchet job to his legacy right now. Shouldn't have taken that NC job, and went into broadcasting....haha, half-joking. He's not THAT bad, if you've seen him in relaxed settings like that "2 Bills" ESPN special, he's obviously very knowledgeable. Not a play by play color guy, but could be decent used sparingly on one of the pregame shows.
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Drunken Overseas Betttor said:

so the rest of the schedule is.

vs. San Fran
vs. Denver
vs. Jax
@ Ten
vs. Buffalo
@ Indy
@ KC
vs. Arizona
vs. Vegas
@ San Diego
vs. Indy

I see 4 wins in there?
6-11 finish?
that 16 day jaunt of Bills, Colts, Chiefs from November 20th-December 7th should be fun.



Way too much season left, but I'm good with trading what you can and positioning for the draft. This team isn't winning anything with a decent schedule, and that one has at least 5 more losses.
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Snake, I respect that you want to hold on to Caserio, but I strongly disagree. He is the primary problem. His OC selection, his OL coach, his OL. Its all a disaster and I think he is responsible. I see no basis to think it will get better with him in the same position. Caserio gotta go.
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When is Caserio's contract up? Is he trying to get himself fired like BoB?
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Caserio was hired in January 2021

to a 6-year contract I believe
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You're assuming Nick was behind the Caley hire and the OL coach promotion. I'm assuming he pushed for that, but doesn't DeMeco hire his own staff?

Nick drafted Stingley, Nico, CJ, Will, Tank, Kamari, Pitre, and Bullock, and traded a pervert for a king's ransom. He cleaned up the financial hell that Bill O'Brien left us in. He got Easterby out of the building. He has done a very good job, excerpt for the damn offensive line. He has screwed that up royally.
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Agree to disagree. I think he has been quite average at best. The OC and OL coaches are old Patriots buddies. I think thats not a coincidence.
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Quote:

You're assuming Nick was behind the Caley hire and the OL coach promotion. I'm assuming he pushed for that, but doesn't DeMeco hire his own staff?


If you'll buy that I'll throw the Golden Gate in free.

Demeco hired those guys like David Culley earned his HC gig.
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5 Dollar Footlong said:

25Lighters said:

Time to tank. Unless we play the Titans we won't be favored the rest of the year.

How's this year's crop of Iowa State wide receivers looking?


Haha for real. Between the three of them they combine for an impressive 60 yards receiving per game.
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I'm 100% out on Casserio and already thinking through potential GM candidates. I like what's been going on in Detroit, maybe look at their assistant GM.
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Kinda crazy what a roller coaster the last 4 years has been. From an absolute bottom feeder that looked to be lightyears away from competing for anything, to, almost overnight, one of the most promising young teams, to looking completely lost again. Legitimately don't know what to think or who is good at their job.
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I don't think DeMeco is going anywhere. I could see a "required" staff overhaul in the offseason IF we want to be serious about winning games.

The problem is, I don't think we want to be serious.
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I don't think a lot is broken. Clearly the defense is not. Special teams looks okay.

CJ had some moments this season that look like rookie CJ, then the next play he is being met in the backfield. They need a better OL and weapons for him. Problem is good OL don't hit the market and drafting rookies has a learning curve.

I'm concerned that the fix is again a multi-year fix, but this is wear Caserio needs to earn his money. Go trade for a good OL now, or else just be honest with fans its next year+ until the offense is where they want it to be.
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I generally don't think spending big money in free agency is the way to go but it's pretty clear no one in this franchise has any idea how to evaluate offensive line talent. I have virtually no faith in them solving this through the draft or identifying under appreciated talent. Go pay (or trade) for a known commodity.
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Snake Jazz said:

You're assuming Nick was behind the Caley hire and the OL coach promotion. I'm assuming he pushed for that, but doesn't DeMeco hire his own staff?

Nick drafted Stingley, Nico, CJ, Will, Tank, Kamari, Pitre, and Bullock, and traded a pervert for a king's ransom. He cleaned up the financial hell that Bill O'Brien left us in. He got Easterby out of the building. He has done a very good job, excerpt for the damn offensive line. He has screwed that up royally.

For all the good Caserio has done, I have a hard time supporting him with the offensive line. I can't figure out if the personnel staff has no ability to evaluate OL talent or if the coaching staff has no idea what they're doing when it comes to development because they've drafted guys and played them. In either case it's professionally negligent to put a bad offensive line out there regardless of whether you're trying to develop a young QB on a rookie contract or if you have a veteran on the field. The OL is such an issue that I don't know if Stroud is good or not, if it was a grade you'd have to consider giving him an incomplete because of what he's playing behind. I was optimistic about this team 2 years ago but I have a tough time thinking they'll ever turn it around. The offense is just boring and sad to watch and doesn't remotely approach what the defense does.
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JCA1 said:

Kinda crazy what a roller coaster the last 4 years has been. From an absolute bottom feeder that looked to be lightyears away from competing for anything, to, almost overnight, one of the most promising young teams, to looking completely lost again. Legitimately don't know what to think or who is good at their job.


This is the most frustrating part of everything. Find a QB on a rookie deal that shows early on that he has the potential to take us places we've never been. Bring in defensive players and FAs to complement that. Defense performs and offense falls flat on its face for over a season now…
 
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