Biggest knock is who you traded him to. Your getting 2 late round first rounders, which scouts generally have picks 20 and on graded as second round talent. Hard to believe you couldn't have gotten 2 1st rounders from a lesser team with a higher potential to flop. Lots of teams are desperate to win now even with a bad team.
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CSWendt said:
Biggest knock is who you traded him to. Your getting 2 late round first rounders, which scouts generally have picks 20 and on graded as second round talent. Hard to believe you couldn't have gotten 2 1st rounders from a lesser team with a higher potential to flop. Lots of teams are desperate to win now even with a bad team.
You could also move back once this year and then you enough have capital to make yourself a player for Jeremiah Smith or Ryan Williams.
GB just spent 2 1rd picks, a good DT, and 188 million for a freak of a pass rusher that will be blatantly held on every passing down
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No one in the top 15 range is trading for Micah. Micah is a final piece type of player at 47 fat ones per year. Not a foundational building block of your franchise.
I'm not wishing injury on anyone but Love has been prone since he got into the league. He also had finger surgery fairly recently so how good will be be and will he play all 17.
Little Rock Ag said:
Wow, this board's reaction is completely the opposite of this pundit's observation:
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/micah-parsons-trade-grades-packers-get-this-generations-reggie-white-cowboys-franchise-set-back-for-years/
EDIT: I offer this from a neutral perspective, so don't flame me if you don't like what the guy has to say.
Parsons is not Reggie White. White was a more dominant pass rusher AND run defender at a time when the holding rules were much more lax and OL were allowed to punch and club DL in the head and neck.
Reggie White is a top 3 defensive player in the history of the league. Parsons is on pace to be a HOFer but he's not the historically transcendent guy White was.
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Vince Blake said:FireAg said:Little Rock Ag said:
Wow, this board's reaction is completely the opposite of this pundit's observation:
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/micah-parsons-trade-grades-packers-get-this-generations-reggie-white-cowboys-franchise-set-back-for-years/
Sounds EXACTLY like writers when Dallas traded Walker...
Knee-jerk click bait write-up...Dallas, for the first time in forever, did very well here...
To be fair that trade had a lot of hidden gems in it that nobody but Jimmy were aware of at the time. Such a smart move by Jimmy. Vikings were galactically stupid. This trade seems more straightforward unless the media left out something?
It would be hilarious if the packers pulled a Denver bronco Wilson type collapse.
Infection_Ag11 said:Little Rock Ag said:
Wow, this board's reaction is completely the opposite of this pundit's observation:
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/micah-parsons-trade-grades-packers-get-this-generations-reggie-white-cowboys-franchise-set-back-for-years/
EDIT: I offer this from a neutral perspective, so don't flame me if you don't like what the guy has to say.
Parsons is not Reggie White. White was a more dominant pass rusher AND run defender at a time when the holding rules were much more lax and OL were allowed to punch and club DL in the head and neck.
Reggie White is a top 3 defensive player in the history of the league. Parsons is on pace to be a HOFer but he's not the historically transcendent guy White was.
Defenses hold parsons. They couldn't hold Reggie.
Sturm is saying Cowboys needed a 2nd or 3rd round pick and Edgerrin Cooper or Matthew Golden also if they were trading to an in conference rival.
Pignorant said:
Sturm is saying Cowboys needed a 2nd or 3rd round pick and Edgerrin Cooper or Matthew Golden also if they were trading to an in conference rival.
Sturm has become hard to listen to when he's talking about the Mavs and Cowboys as organizations. He's discovered that people like him when he just ****s on Nico and Jerry. He loves pointing out on twitter how much he criticizes those 2 also.
Is he also pretending he isn't one of the first people to point out Micah becomes almost nonexistent after thanksgiving?
I wonder if Parson's back will miraculously heal by the first game now?
The Cowboys are not contending for anything so it doesn't matter if he was traded in conference. As stated before he is the add on piece to a contending team
Micah is also 36th on the NFL top 100 this year. He's the 7th highest DE on the list. I realize these things are subjective, but it's an interesting data point on his perception in the league.
Not having to make him the most insanely high paid non-QB along with getting 2 1sts and a difference maker at your biggest need position is a fantastic move.
Not having to make him the most insanely high paid non-QB along with getting 2 1sts and a difference maker at your biggest need position is a fantastic move.
I'm fairly neutral on the trade, certainly not as bullish or homer as a lot of you guys. The biggest rub for me is who he's going to. Those firsts aren't going to be top 15 firsts. I like Clark, but I agree with Sturm that another piece was likely gettable in this deal, whether it's a 2-3 round pick, or another playable piece, or both.
Ultimately, we are likely a bit better off long term, but not gonna **** on a generational pass rusher just cuz. And, I hate Jerry too much to call this a "win." A lot of folks still forget that we could've had Micah in the low to mid 30s had we been proactive about it.
Ultimately, we are likely a bit better off long term, but not gonna **** on a generational pass rusher just cuz. And, I hate Jerry too much to call this a "win." A lot of folks still forget that we could've had Micah in the low to mid 30s had we been proactive about it.
We might be grabbing one of the qbs from the Clemson/LSU game....good watch. I'd rather have one of those than Arch. Still not 100% sold on Sellars.
or Marcel Reed in 2027.
or Marcel Reed in 2027.
I'm not so sure about other assets being gettable. Especially now that we know how much was required to pay Micah. Cowboys clearly weren't going to do that (which I agree with not doing), so had lost a little bit of leverage there. And a team having to pay that much money does make them want to give up a little less.
I think it's a good move when you consider all factors/context.
I think it's a good move when you consider all factors/context.
shack009 said:
I'm not so sure about other assets being gettable. Especially now that we know how much was required to pay Micah. Cowboys clearly weren't going to do that (which I agree with not doing), so had lost a little bit of leverage there. And a team having to pay that much money does make them want to give up a little less.
I think it's a good move when you consider all factors/context.
Meh, I don't think there's anything that will make me believe we couldn't have at least gotten a 3rd as icing on top. When you swing that big like the packers did, you don't blow it up over another 3rd or a depth piece etc. Just like with Luka, a team is gonna give up more to keep the splash deal in play.
Agreed that 47M is way too much for Micah, but color me very unimpressed with 2 late round firsts and a close to 30 year old DT
Yeah, this is why I was a proponent of trading him in the spring of 2024. The team acquiring him gets 2 cheaper years and that's worth more draft capital. But having to give a nonQB $50 million a year is going to limit how many picks go back in return
Flip this deal around. If Micah were on another team instead of Dallas and with what we know about him, would anyone here be FOR giving up 2 #1s, a quality veteran, AND paying him $190 million to get him?
Flip this deal around. If Micah were on another team instead of Dallas and with what we know about him, would anyone here be FOR giving up 2 #1s, a quality veteran, AND paying him $190 million to get him?
ramblin_ag02 said:
GB just spent 2 1rd picks, a good DT, and 188 million for a freak of a pass rusher that will be blatantly held on every passing down
I agree. What CLE should have done with Myles. FTR, he got $160M with $123M guaranteed.
The DT Dallas got hasn't missed a game in 4 seasons.
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Doctor51 said:
I'd now take the two number ones call Cleveland and get Myles Garret. And your defense got damn good all of sudden.
that would be awesome and hilarious.
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Pignorant said:
Sturm is saying Cowboys needed a 2nd or 3rd round pick and Edgerrin Cooper or Matthew Golden also if they were trading to an in conference rival.
I think thats not a realistic trade weeks before the season starts when the player is currently holding out.
WHich just makes it dumber that if we were going to do this, we didnt do it earlier
Pignorant said:
Sturm is saying Cowboys needed a 2nd or 3rd round pick and Edgerrin Cooper or Matthew Golden also if they were trading to an in conference rival.
I like Sports Sturm, but he's falling into the "everything Jerry does is bad because it was Jerry that did it" trap so many Cowboys fans have succumb to. They refuse to ever allow Jerry to get any credit so their positions change dependent on what needs to be said to portray Jerry as being in the wrong on any given issue.
Besides, everything on Twitter is making it sound like McClay and Stephen were the ones driving this ship and they orchestrated the deal. Jerry just finally got pissed off enough to let then finish it.
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Southlake said:PatAg said:Southlake said:
Now Dallas has lost Luca and Micah…
Gonna be very interesting to see how Jerry manages these 2 no. 1s and how Micah does at GB.
Micah is not Luka
And they don't play the same sport, but they are both marquee players from Dallas.
more jerseys burning tonight…
I don't recall Luka behaving like Micah did in the last month leading up to the trade.
If there's anyone people should be mad at its the agent. David Mulugheta is a greedy mf and was the puppet master behind this whole thing
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Listening to the DLLS pod and maybe my numbness to the boys made me miss this stat and not sure I even believe it, but for plays Micah was on the field we were the number 1 defense and for plays he wasn't we were dead last. Any truth to that metric?
Also, yall give JJ too much credit. I still think this was more about Jerry's ego than anything else. He may have been a good dealer back in the 90s, but he's just a megalomaniac reetard these days
Also, yall give JJ too much credit. I still think this was more about Jerry's ego than anything else. He may have been a good dealer back in the 90s, but he's just a megalomaniac reetard these days
DannyDuberstein said:
Flip this deal around. If Micah were on another team instead of Dallas and with what we know about him, would anyone here be FOR giving up 2 #1s, a quality veteran, AND paying him $190 million to get him?
Of course not. Aside from all the off-field stuff, people have decided to completely forget that Micah has faded late in the year every year, and he was also a complete non-factor in the GB playoff game.
Dallas has four 1s the next two drafts and the 2nd most cap space in the league to work with…
Really impressed they had the testicular fortitude to pull this off…
Really impressed they had the testicular fortitude to pull this off…
zgolfz85 said:
Listening to the DLLS pod and maybe my numbness to the boys made me miss this stat and not sure I even believe it, but for plays Micah was on the field we were the number 1 defense and for plays he wasn't we were dead last. Any truth to that metric?
Also, yall give JJ too much credit. I still think this was more about Jerry's ego than anything else. He may have been a good dealer back in the 90s, but he's just a megalomaniac reetard these days
Sturm quoted that on the ticket this afternoon, but had it 1st when on the field and 2nd worst when off.
shack009 said:DannyDuberstein said:
Flip this deal around. If Micah were on another team instead of Dallas and with what we know about him, would anyone here be FOR giving up 2 #1s, a quality veteran, AND paying him $190 million to get him?
Of course not. Aside from all the off-field stuff, people have decided to completely forget that Micah has faded late in the year every year, and he was also a complete non-factor in the GB playoff game.
Weird cuz all my packer buddies are giddy af and have been sending me memes for an hour and a half
Those guys are frigging miserable humans. There's absolutely zero chance that stat is true. We've been one of the absolute worst run defenses in the NFL since he stepped on the field for the cowboys.
FireAg said:
Dallas has four 1s the next two drafts and the 2nd most cap space in the league to work with…
Really impressed they had the testicular fortitude to pull this off…
And dak, Ceedee and others will be too old to do anything about it by the time those picks are on the field and worth a ****
zgolfz85 said:
Listening to the DLLS pod and maybe my numbness to the boys made me miss this stat and not sure I even believe it, but for plays Micah was on the field we were the number 1 defense and for plays he wasn't we were dead last. Any truth to that metric?
Also, yall give JJ too much credit. I still think this was more about Jerry's ego than anything else. He may have been a good dealer back in the 90s, but he's just a megalomaniac reetard these days
Cavanaugh tweeted that earlier. It's a pretty dumb stat. It compares the cowboys defense when their best player is on the field to defenses when their best player isn't on the field.
How do the Steelers stack up against the rest of the league when Watt isn't on the field? How do Parsons-only plays compare to Watt-only plays for the Steelers. It's just a completely selective metric that doesn't do apples to apples comparisons.
zgolfz85 said:shack009 said:DannyDuberstein said:
Flip this deal around. If Micah were on another team instead of Dallas and with what we know about him, would anyone here be FOR giving up 2 #1s, a quality veteran, AND paying him $190 million to get him?
Of course not. Aside from all the off-field stuff, people have decided to completely forget that Micah has faded late in the year every year, and he was also a complete non-factor in the GB playoff game.
Weird cuz all my packer buddies are giddy af and have been sending me memes for an hour and a half
That's because they don't know all the stuff that we know. That was the question.
Wait until they run power left and he gets Trent William latched onto him and put into the third row.
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