zgolfz85 said:FireAg said:
Dallas has four 1s the next two drafts and the 2nd most cap space in the league to work with…
Really impressed they had the testicular fortitude to pull this off…
And dak, Ceedee and others will be too old to do anything about it by the time those picks are on the field and worth a ****
zgolfz85 said:
Yeah you guys are right, Super Bowl here we come
Infection_Ag11 said:Pignorant said:
Sturm is saying Cowboys needed a 2nd or 3rd round pick and Edgerrin Cooper or Matthew Golden also if they were trading to an in conference rival.
I like Sports Sturm, but he's falling into the "everything Jerry does is bad because it was Jerry that did it" trap so many Cowboys fans have succumb to. They refuse to ever allow Jerry to get any credit so their positions change dependent on what needs to be said to portray Jerry as being in the wrong on any given issue.
Besides, everything on Twitter is making it sound like McClay and Stephen were the ones driving this ship and they orchestrated the deal. Jerry just finally got pissed off enough to let then finish it.
zgolfz85 said:
Listening to the DLLS pod and maybe my numbness to the boys made me miss this stat and not sure I even believe it, but for plays Micah was on the field we were the number 1 defense and for plays he wasn't we were dead last. Any truth to that metric?
Also, yall give JJ too much credit. I still think this was more about Jerry's ego than anything else. He may have been a good dealer back in the 90s, but he's just a megalomaniac reetard these days
Infection_Ag11 said:zgolfz85 said:
Listening to the DLLS pod and maybe my numbness to the boys made me miss this stat and not sure I even believe it, but for plays Micah was on the field we were the number 1 defense and for plays he wasn't we were dead last. Any truth to that metric?
Also, yall give JJ too much credit. I still think this was more about Jerry's ego than anything else. He may have been a good dealer back in the 90s, but he's just a megalomaniac reetard these days
It's true, but misleading. We were the number one defense in yards per play while Micah was on the field, but the thing is Micah played on essentially every passing down and only about two thirds of running downs in three of his four seasons. So in other words, Micah's plays skew towards long down and distances where teams were one dimensional and that just makes offenses worse in general. The stat goes out the window on downs where teams still run the ball a decent amount of the time.
Also the stat is over the course of his career not nah individual season, which includes two years in which we just had a really good defense period.
Tksymm7 said:
Almost everyone here is four steps ahead. We're on team rebuild. Team get a new QB. We're not winning the SB or anything with this iteration WITH Micah, so why pay him 47+
zgolfz85 said:
It just pains me to know we could've had the deal done at a discount last year. Jerry's ego in stretching it out left us with 2 bad options. Overpay on a stud player with a little baggage, or send him packing for too little (I only say too little because it's Green Bay…do this deal with a middle to lower pack team with 2 mid to low first rounders and this deal is way more enticing)
Tksymm7 said:
Almost everyone here is four steps ahead. We're on team rebuild. Team get a new QB. We're not winning the SB or anything with this iteration WITH Micah, so why pay him 47+
zgolfz85 said:Tksymm7 said:
Almost everyone here is four steps ahead. We're on team rebuild. Team get a new QB. We're not winning the SB or anything with this iteration WITH Micah, so why pay him 47+
Cuz you could've paid him 32 last year and looked like geniuses
shack009 said:zgolfz85 said:Tksymm7 said:
Almost everyone here is four steps ahead. We're on team rebuild. Team get a new QB. We're not winning the SB or anything with this iteration WITH Micah, so why pay him 47+
Cuz you could've paid him 32 last year and looked like geniuses
How can anybody possibly think this is true, knowing what we know now?
shack009 said:zgolfz85 said:Tksymm7 said:
Almost everyone here is four steps ahead. We're on team rebuild. Team get a new QB. We're not winning the SB or anything with this iteration WITH Micah, so why pay him 47+
Cuz you could've paid him 32 last year and looked like geniuses
How can anybody possibly think this is true, knowing what we know now?
zgolfz85 said:shack009 said:zgolfz85 said:Tksymm7 said:
Almost everyone here is four steps ahead. We're on team rebuild. Team get a new QB. We're not winning the SB or anything with this iteration WITH Micah, so why pay him 47+
Cuz you could've paid him 32 last year and looked like geniuses
How can anybody possibly think this is true, knowing what we know now?
Are you asking if I trust Jerry or Micah more? I don't trust a single thing JJ has ever said about anything in his life
zgolfz85 said:
Color me a guy that will extend any true star player at a discount before their contract is up. It's not like extending Jimbo here. We root for a franchise where players will leave a bit on the table to be a cowboy….ans we just don't take advantage of it. I don't get how Jerry doesn't do that deal last year.
Infection_Ag11 said:zgolfz85 said:
It just pains me to know we could've had the deal done at a discount last year. Jerry's ego in stretching it out left us with 2 bad options. Overpay on a stud player with a little baggage, or send him packing for too little (I only say too little because it's Green Bay…do this deal with a middle to lower pack team with 2 mid to low first rounders and this deal is way more enticing)
Eh, Green Bay is the second best team in their division and 5-6 in the NFC. Meaning they are the type of team that is a QB injury, or a couple OL injuries, away from being a below average to bad team that misses the playoffs.
The modern league is too unpredictable to worry about this. If Jordan Love tears his ACL in week 8 this year, suddenly Dallas probably has two top 12 picks.
zgolfz85 said:
would almost prefer to really blow it up now
zgolfz85 said:shack009 said:zgolfz85 said:Tksymm7 said:
Almost everyone here is four steps ahead. We're on team rebuild. Team get a new QB. We're not winning the SB or anything with this iteration WITH Micah, so why pay him 47+
Cuz you could've paid him 32 last year and looked like geniuses
How can anybody possibly think this is true, knowing what we know now?
Are you asking if I trust Jerry or Micah more? I don't trust a single thing JJ has ever said about anything in his life
Infection_Ag11 said:zgolfz85 said:
would almost prefer to really blow it up now
I mean, the only other "blow it up" move is cutting or trading Dak. Cutting him creates too much dead money to really make it worth it until 2027, and trading him requires him to agree to it. Diggs is gone after this year regardless unless he returns to peak 2021 form what so that doesn't really count.
shack009 said:zgolfz85 said:shack009 said:zgolfz85 said:Tksymm7 said:
Almost everyone here is four steps ahead. We're on team rebuild. Team get a new QB. We're not winning the SB or anything with this iteration WITH Micah, so why pay him 47+
Cuz you could've paid him 32 last year and looked like geniuses
How can anybody possibly think this is true, knowing what we know now?
Are you asking if I trust Jerry or Micah more? I don't trust a single thing JJ has ever said about anything in his life
I wouldn't trust anything either side says during a negotiation. But Micah just got a trade that he wanted as well as 110%+ of top of the market for a non-QB. To think he would have signed for $32 million last year is just illogical.
Tksymm7 said:
Almost everyone here is four steps ahead. We're on team rebuild. Team get a new QB. We're not winning the SB or anything with this iteration WITH Micah, so why pay him 47+
Pignorant said:
Sturm is saying Cowboys needed a 2nd or 3rd round pick and Edgerrin Cooper or Matthew Golden also if they were trading to an in conference rival.
mavsfan4ever said:Pignorant said:
Sturm is saying Cowboys needed a 2nd or 3rd round pick and Edgerrin Cooper or Matthew Golden also if they were trading to an in conference rival.
Everyone on the ticket was so dumb today. Acting like we didn't get much in return. Bob is essentially saying we should've gotten 3 first round picks (golden was just taken) and a second. Has anyone ever gotten 3 first round picks in the nfl? Not that I can think of. And he thinks we should've gotten that plus abscond or third on top? And Green Bay would then have to pay $47 per year to Micah?
That's not even close to realistic. It seems like we got more than the Khalil Mack trade (depending on how you grade Clark), and everyone was saying we wouldn't be able to get a Mack haul just a couple weeks ago.
FireAg said:
Preposterous…you have no way of knowing that…
And what happens if you make the move and you get a high pick then and no one you really wanted to spend so highly on at that time?
Way too many variables to make such a claim with such conviction…
mavsfan4ever said:Pignorant said:
Sturm is saying Cowboys needed a 2nd or 3rd round pick and Edgerrin Cooper or Matthew Golden also if they were trading to an in conference rival.
Everyone on the ticket was so dumb today. Acting like we didn't get much in return. Bob is essentially saying we should've gotten 3 first round picks (golden was just taken) and a second. Has anyone ever gotten 3 first round picks in the nfl? Not that I can think of. And he thinks we should've gotten that plus abscond or third on top? And Green Bay would then have to pay $47 per year to Micah?
That's not even close to realistic. It seems like we got more than the Khalil Mack trade (depending on how you grade Clark), and everyone was saying we wouldn't be able to get a Mack haul just a couple weeks ago.
