DOJ: Epstein killed himself, no client list

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Right after the press asked Bondi about Esptein intel ties, she could have walked down the hallway to OPR and got the Alex Acosta transcript/file, where he confirmed he was told Epstein "belonged to intelligence".

Thats the smoking gun. The press is dropping the ball. The public is barking up the wrong tree. Hopefully somehow the Acosta topic gets traction ASAP.



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Reject reality, substitute your own.
Ag CPA
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Donald Trump suing Rupert Murdoch, crazy times.
flown-the-coop
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I was wondering what Reddit was saying about this. Thanks for saving me the trip!
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You do realize you were beating a dead horse, right? Bondi is never going to answer the question. No one is. At least not anytime soon.

Maybe in 2085 president Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor or President Apple Blythe Alison Martin will declassify the records.

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FobTies
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Im Gipper said:

You do realize you were beating a dead horse, right? Bondi is never going to answer the question. No one is. At least not anytime soon.


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flown-the-coop said:

I was wondering what Reddit was saying about this. Thanks for saving me the trip!


Not sure about reddit. Just experts like Mike Benz and others, who do this full time. You should go check him out.
HTownAg98
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I wonder how soon WSJ will be filing an anti-SLAPP motion.
Gig em G
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If they do I guess we have to assume the birthday card is legitimate?
Im Gipper
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Can I get a separate thread on the lawsuit?

If we can have 3 threads a week on tipping, I would think we could have two on this right?

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Interesting theory from Jeff Childers' Substack today…

When Trump calls the Epstein scandal a "Democrat hoax" and "scam," most people assume he's gaslighting. But … what if he means something more tactical? Maybe Trump isn't saying that Epstein didn't commit crimes. Maybe he's hinting that Democrats (and their deep state allies) weaponized the aftermath. Such as padding the FBI case file with misleading misinformation; creating just-plausible-enough "evidence" to entrap Trump or his allies; flooding the archive with innuendo, red herrings, and manufactured grotesqueries (like "bawdy letters" allegedly signed "Donald"); and intentionally making it too politically dangerous to release.

Maybe they aimed to put Trump in an impossible fix: either don't release, and break his promises, or release, and get manufactured Epstein spooge all over himself and every other significant Republican.

Democrats had four long years to get ready. This theory would explain why Bondi first said, "I have the file" and then said, "there's nothing to see here." Maybe she wasn't backtracking. Maybe she was dodging the trap. She didn't flip she recognized a setup.

In other words, when Trump says Democrat hoax, maybe he means they sabotaged the file.
Did Bondi discover the Democrats had prepared a honeypot? They were aware of all the many promises made by Bondi, Kash, and Bongino to release the entire Epstein file. Did they prepare for it, by loading the file up with so many lies it would be impossible to untangle? Fine. We'll pack it so full of so much scandalous crap that when it comes out, it destroys Trump's people, not ours.

But Trump went sideways, and said, "we're not releasing it." It caused the Democrats to lose their marbles, turn on a dime, and suddenly start demanding it now! Hence the sudden surge of press coverage, calls from the left for "full transparency," and suspiciously timed media grenades (like the mystery Birthday Scrapbook) that just happened to target Trump and no one else.

Unlike the bloated FBI archive, the grand jury transcript is court-sealed, time-locked (2019), prosecutor-curated, sworn and vetted, and immune to post-hoc deep-state meddling. It's the version of the case built before Epstein's death, before Biden's DOJ, and before the cleanup crew arrived. It's the last known account of the crimes as the Trump DOJ saw them.

When Democrats suddenly start demanding the release of the "full Epstein file" after four years of DOJ silence, sealed records, and zero momentum they mean they want their trap to spring. The last thing they want is for the grand jury file to be opened.

https://open.substack.com/pub/coffeeandcovid/p/honeypot-friday-july-18-2025-c-and?selection=1dbcc0c5-e948-4217-8b55-c727f5c14908&r=dzrj0&utm_medium=ios
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Quote:

Maybe Trump isn't saying that Epstein didn't commit crimes.


It's a 100% certainty Trump is not saying that.


Seriously, do people actually really think that's what he meant? I don't mean, trolls, but actual beliefs.


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When Democrats suddenly start demanding the release of the "full Epstein file" after four years of DOJ silence, sealed records, and zero momentum they mean they want their trap to spring. The last thing they want is for the grand jury file to be opened.



This guy is going to be very disappointed when he sees what's in the grand jury file!

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The Fall Guy said:

74OA said:

The Fall Guy said:

74OA said:

The amount of unreleased evidence the government has possession of is a bit mindboggling.

For example: "The three-page index is a report generated by the FBI that lists the evidence inventoried by federal law enforcement during the multiple investigations into his conduct. According to that index, the remaining materials include 40 computers and electronic devices, 26 storage drives, more than 70 CDs and six recording devices. The devices hold more than 300 gigabytes of data, according to the DOJ. The evidence also includes approximately 60 pieces of physical evidence, including photographs, travel logs, employee lists...."

WOW


But nobody in any of those files right? Just fluff.

It's hard to believe. More:

"The unreleased evidence notably includes multiple documents related to two islands Epstein owned in the U.S. Virgin Islands, Little Saint James -- where his compound was located -- and Greater Saint James. According to the index, the files include a folder containing Island blueprints, photographs and other documents.
Some of the documents could shed light on who visited the island. According to the index, the files also include a Little Saint James logbook as well as multiple logs of boat trips to and from the island.
The evidence also includes multiple lists, one vaguely described as a "document with names" and an employee contact list."


Thanks for this info. Quite alarming.

Now they're talking about releasing the grand jury transcript.

But that only includes a tiny fraction of the mountain of FBI evidence no one else has ever seen and won't help answer the question of who else participated in Epstein's abuse of children/minors.
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Epstein's "Sex Fantasy Island" is not the only one of these that exist. I personally knew someone who visited one of these retreats and it was not connected to Epstein as far as I can determine. Staffed by young eastern European women and visited by the wealthy and powerful. This is the story media should investigate.
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JD Vance demanded the release of the letter and he has said nothing of this demand, Why? DJT Needs to keep his eye on JD!!!
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revvie said:

Epstein's "Sex Fantasy Island" is not the only one of these that exist. I personally knew someone who visited one of these retreats and it was not connected to Epstein as far as I can determine. Staffed by young eastern European women and visited by the wealthy and powerful. This is the story media should investigate.


Were the women there underage?
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When you really go down the rabbit hole you realize the underage sex stuff wasnt as much related to blackmail, as it was deal making.

The only thing besides pedo stuff Epstein was good at, was money laundering. He funneled money thru shell companies and 501Cs on behalf of governments for "unofficial" intel ops. He was a less transparent Khashoggi, who liked underage girls with braces. Khashoggi was known to rack up more in commissions than all other commission based contractors in all of Northrop combined. Epstein made money that way too, not from forex trading or a hedge fund.

Just like Khashoggi facilitated Iran Contra, Epstein also facilitated these type of deals for US and Israeli gov. The parties and girls were more about greasing skids, closing deals, and leverage for "fixes" with counterparties. Thats why Mossad specifically said they were not working with Epstein on a "blackmail" ops.

The gov isnt going to let anyone know about their work with Epstein. They will kill this part of the story like they killed him. They know all of the NPC sheep will keep barking up the wrong tree with the "Epstein list". But just maybe enough of you and everyone else will wake up one day.
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Trump gives the acronym POTUS an entire new meaning.
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revvie said:

Epstein's "Sex Fantasy Island" is not the only one of these that exist. I personally knew someone who visited one of these retreats and it was not connected to Epstein as far as I can determine. Staffed by young eastern European women and visited by the wealthy and powerful. This is the story media should investigate.

And you didn't report this to authorities why?

I'm sure the media would love to talk to you. But nah.
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FobTies
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Not that this WSJ letter "scandal" matters or is relevant to the real story on Epstein's deep state money laundering. But after reviewing full contents, its a lot weirder than a bday card sign-off about "secrets". WTF is this, some poetic theatrical representation of a hypothetical "bawdy" convo? How is a "handwritten" birthday letter a back and forth conversation?


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Do you have a link to the whole complaint? I can't find one not behind a paywall.

My understanding is that the card has that fake conversation written out.
FobTies
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Yeah, I was hoping to get more context and got the WSJ pay wall too. Maybe some assistant tripping on LSD wrote it, and Trump signed it.


FobTies
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Worth noting Dershowitz said "It was too long ago, I dont remember". Well the bday letter was 2003. He sure as hell remembered 2001, when he was accused of sexual relations with Virgina G.


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To be fair, most people don't remember everything that happened to them 20 years ago. I would expect him to be able to recall something he was actively a participant in compared to some strange birthday letter that did not involve him.
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This lawsuit may be over, or will at a minimum have to be re-filed, before it began.
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SwigAg11 said:

To be fair, most people don't remember everything that happened to them 20 years ago. I would expect him to be able to recall something he was actively a participant in compared to some strange birthday letter that did not involve him.

Yeah, thats fair. But when you follow all the things Dershowitz says, it doesn't always add up...he lawyers everything.

When asked about Esptein's slap on the wrist in Florida, AD said "its was a harsher sentence than a normal person would get for same conviction". We all know that is BS. Acosta resigned as Labor Sec over it that plea deal.

AD recently said "I have absolutely no doubt that Epstein never worked for any intelligence agency." If we find out Epstein was doing underground financing deals for intel, Dershowitz will just say, "yeah, but Epstein was not contracted or employed as an asset, informant, or any work arrangement whatsover, which is what I was refering to".

This is basically the same stance as Mossad in their denial too. They said they werent involved in a "blackmailing" op with Epstein.

So much Jew gaslighting, hard to trust any of it.
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So do we still think this will be the end of Trump?
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Ag CPA said:

Donald Trump suing Rupert Murdoch, crazy times.

The left could not be happier right now.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
HTownAg98
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BMX Bandit said:

Do you have a link to the whole complaint? I can't find one not behind a paywall.

My understanding is that the card has that fake conversation written out.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/26010374-trumpsuit071825/
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No Spin Ag said:

Ag CPA said:

Donald Trump suing Rupert Murdoch, crazy times.

The left could not be happier right now.


The left is never happy.
No Spin Ag
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Dirty Bird said:

"This lawsuit is filed not only on behalf of your favorite President, ME, but also in order to continue standing up for ALL Americans who will no longer tolerate the abusive wrongdoings of the Fake News Media."

Love it. He cracks me up. Lolz

Trump going after the man who gave the world Fox News...chef's kiss.
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aginlakeway said:

No Spin Ag said:

Ag CPA said:

Donald Trump suing Rupert Murdoch, crazy times.

The left could not be happier right now.


The left is never happy.

True, but they sure AF aren't exactly sad at what's going on in Trump World.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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revvie said:

Epstein's "Sex Fantasy Island" is not the only one of these that exist. I personally knew someone who visited one of these retreats and it was not connected to Epstein as far as I can determine. Staffed by young eastern European women and visited by the wealthy and powerful. This is the story media should investigate.

So, investigating who else participated in Epstein's well-documented abuse of children/minors isn't worth the effort?

"In a joint memo released last week, the FBI and DOJ argued that a "large portion" of the records included photographs of victims and child pornography. According to the DOJ, the evidence includes "images and videos" of victims who appear to be minors, "over ten thousand downloaded videos and images of illegal child sex abuse material and other pornography," and a "large volume" of images of Epstein."

There's well established precedent for protecting victim's identities while going after predators. Get on with it and let the chips fall where they may.

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Its important for everyone to understand that the "clients" are very likely gov counterparties in deals Esptein was facilitating. So these governments arent going to expose them, for fear of being exposed on their Iran Contra type ops and shady financing deals.

So everyone is going about this in the wrong order. First, expose the backdoor gov deal making with Epstein, then there is no further protection for the clients.

Start by demanding the Nov 2020 OPR/DOJ transcript where Alex Acosta confirmed he was told "Epstein belonged to intelligence". Then move on to his ties to Adnan Khashoggi, and those exposed gov ops.

Alan Dershowitz is lying about no Epstein intel ties. He knows nothing will be released as long that aspect of the story is preserved. So he demands release, while denying gov is connected.

The press totally sucks at their job. So far they let Bondi off hook. Ask for the Acosta Transcript, not the "Client list".
 
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