DOJ: Epstein killed himself, no client list

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In reply to 94chem • 10:02a, 7/23/25
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Without saying anything about Joe Biden, and I know this is going to be really difficult for you, tell us in a few words why you are 100% confident that DJT didn't behave in a similar manner to Prince Andrew wrt Epstein.

because anyone with half a brain who has not been gaslighted by the media and demonic left, would know that if there was such activity then it would of been exposed and brought into the light of day long ago. Especially during either Biden or Obama's term.


This is just simple common sense, they absolutely hate Trump. They have used any and everything to get him, including "grab her by the XXXXX", Stormy Daniels and any and everyone they could stir up or pay to come after him to destroy him. And yet they wouldn't use this. PLEASE!

So what you are saying here is that if such evidence existed, they wouldn't use it, but would go to extreme efforts to create Russian pee tapes and all kinds of nonsense!

Please, you are not dumb, think it through!
"only one thing is important!"
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In reply to OPAG • 10:11a, 7/23/25
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Without saying anything about Joe Biden, and I know this is going to be really difficult for you, tell us in a few words why you are 100% confident that DJT didn't behave in a similar manner to Prince Andrew wrt Epstein.

because anyone with half a brain who has not been gaslighted by the media and demonic left, would know that if there was such activity then it would of been exposed and brought into the light of day long ago. Especially during either Biden or Obama's term.


This is just simple common sense, they absolutely hate Trump. They have used any and everything to get him, including "grab her by the XXXXX", Stormy Daniels and any and everyone they could stir up or pay to come after him to destroy him. And yet they wouldn't use this. PLEASE!

So what you are saying here is that if such evidence existed, they wouldn't use it, but would go to extreme efforts to create Russian pee tapes and all kinds of nonsense!

Please, you are not dumb, think it through!


I grew up in the 80's. Mutual Assured Destruction. Remember?
94chem,
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10:32a, 7/23/25
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 10:47a, 7/23/25
flown-the-coop said:
Francis Macomber said:
flown-the-coop said:
PaulsBunions said:
flown-the-coop said:
He always came across to me as a dumbarse. Now reading more about the math teacher / bear sterns tie ins it seems he was indeed intelligent, finishing school a couple years early.

From there he used charm with the ladies to get to gents who could get him connections.

Did the dude get some help and prime opportunities? Definitely seems so. Did that involve international arms deals? Seems so.

A good question is whether her was directed / administered by intelligence or if he was simply allowed to operate without repercussions as the intel collected from observation was worth it alone.


Seems like a good enough cause to force the govt to give us answers to that question then. I'd certainly want to know if our government is in the business of trafficking kids.


To answer that last part, unfortunately that is exactly the business the Biden admin was in.

The sins of Epstein and friends pale in comparison to the human tragedy that 4 years of open immigration free for all created.

Millions of rapes, tens of thousands into sex slavery and thousands of deaths.


Millions of rapes? Any credible link for that bullspit?

Do we have an ACTUAL count of these rapes? No, but we know even amongst victims of sexual violence here in the United States is grossly underreported given the very nature of the crimes.

So in other words, your "source" is your feels.
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In reply to Ervin Burrell • 10:50a, 7/23/25
Cartels raping migrant women is pretty commonplace, millions might be hyperbolic but it was certainly a huge issue the dems didn't want to talk about. To the dems they were all dreamers who could do no wrong
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In reply to 94chem • 11:09a, 7/23/25
That's just fatalistic thinking.

I grew up in the 60's and 70's. I am well aware of the whole hippy movement and all the nonsense that was launched against our nation and culture.

And any anything but a Trumpian. I love truth and am well aware, up close and personal, of the wickedness that has been launched against us by the globalist.

Trump was one of them, I have not doubt that there is a lot shady stuff in his life, (especially in the sexual immorality department) however being a pedo is just simply not there! It's just not.

And only those who have been gaslighted and suffer acute TDS are unable to see it. It would of been a nuclear device they could of used long ago!

They didn't because it's just not there. So the created all kinds of scams.

Mutual destruction has nothing to do with this.

They are desperate and they would want a civil war if they can forment it, for sure.

"only one thing is important!"
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In reply to Ervin Burrell • 11:21a, 7/23/25
My "feels" regarding known occurrences of rape and sexual abuse?

If you take a low number of let's say 50,000 women and children a year being raped and on average are raped say 5 times, then that is 1 million over 4 years. Consider the ones sold into sexual slavery who are then likely raped hundreds of times and quickly the numbers add up.

So disregard my feels… what do you think the actual number of rapes occurring along the migratory path are? How many occur daily in the US resulting from the explosion of trafficked women and children under the years of open borders?

People here have argued for days about Epstein and make claims they care about it because of the abuse of the underage females caught up in it. That number is less than 100.

Meanwhile, complete dismiss or argue against the exponentially more that occurred as a result, hell facilitated by, the Biden admin and the US AID funded NGOs that facilitated and supported this trafficking.

Find facts to discount my assertion or just simply take the side of rapists and traffickers. Your call.
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11:33a, 7/23/25
Bump for the day.

Friendly reminder that Trump was a protege of Roy Cohn, who has a documented history of hosting blackmail parties at the Plaza hotel. Look up the book One Nation Under Blackmail by Whitney Webb or search for her interviews.
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 11:35a, 7/23/25
FWIW, a 2023 report from the Center for Immigration Studies cited a New York Post article stating that two-thirds of foreigners crossing through Mexico reported experiencing violence, with one-third of women reporting sexual abuse. If ~5 million women entered the US illegally from 2020-2025, I would think its safe to say that there was at least 1 million rapes.

Got the numbers from Grok but I don't think you're far off
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In reply to OPAG • 11:42a, 7/23/25
OPAG said:
That's just fatalistic thinking.

I grew up in the 60's and 70's. I am well aware of the whole hippy movement and all the nonsense that was launched against our nation and culture.

And any anything but a Trumpian. I love truth and am well aware, up close and personal, of the wickedness that has been launched against us by the globalist.

Trump was one of them, I have not doubt that there is a lot shady stuff in his life, (especially in the sexual immorality department) however being a pedo is just simply not there! It's just not.

And only those who have been gaslighted and suffer acute TDS are unable to see it. It would of been a nuclear device they could of used long ago!

They didn't because it's just not there. So the created all kinds of scams.

Mutual destruction has nothing to do with this.

They are desperate and they would want a civil war if they can forment it, for sure.


Well, then release the whole damn thing and let's put it to rest once and for all.
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11:44a, 7/23/25
Hotair mocks the MSNBC bs about 'The Russians are coming, the Russians are coming!' And now the "It's a re-write and it's really all to cover up Epstein!'
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There isn't a bigger, more pathetic attempt at diversion than this.
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...The allegations from Trump's intelligence chiefs come when he faces demands from many of his supporters to release files linked to financier Jeffrey Epstein. Democratic lawmakers accused the administration of seeking to distract from the Epstein case and to "rewrite" history for partisan purposes.

Gabbard and now whistleblowers coming forward aren't 'rewriting' history, as she's proven with these releases. This isn't opinion - these are all memos, emails, and documents authored and often leaked surreptitiously to the media by the very people the press and network news organizations are desperate to deflect from.

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None other than the happy gang of co-conspirators.
Oh.
But Epstein, right?
These seditious 'public servants' were knee-deep in manipulating intelligence, ruining lives, and constructing villainous fabrications in order to subvert the express will of the people and fatally cripple the rightful governing powers of a duly elected administration. They formed a subversive shadow government scheming within the bowels of the bureaucracy, aided by their willing propaganda partners in the press and on air.
The media couldn't wait for the next filthy Foggy Bottom tidbit to drop.
The press salivated unquestioningly at every 'revelation,' printing or reporting breathlessly, and gang stomped anyone who dared question the narrative they were so carefully constructing and the heroes of 'The Resistance' they were so carefully grooming for public consumption.
Only, they weren't careful enough. Harris LOST and the documents Gabbard was never meant to find aren't a fairytale spun in a hotel room and covered with urine.
NBC News and its ilk, however, are sure covered with something similar.
And everyone knows it.

No one is buying this drivel any longer, fake news.
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11:46a, 7/23/25
Releasing documents is "rewriting history"?
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In reply to Gig em G • 11:49a, 7/23/25
Gig em G said:
Bump for the day.

Friendly reminder that Trump was a protege of Roy Cohn, who has a documented history of hosting blackmail parties at the Plaza hotel. Look up the book One Nation Under Blackmail by Whitney Webb or search for her interviews.

Interesting info for sure, thanks. I've also seen some surveillance footage from The Plaza Hotel where Trump was enabling massive card fraud. A minor (obviously can't use names of minors) was allowed to fraudulently charge $967 to a room he was not authorized to stay in. The room, a suite, was over $2100 per night.

Have we begun impeachment proceedings yet for Trump's rampant credit card abuse enablement while owner of The Plaza? If not, why not?







Edited to add: This evidence above was provided by a whistleblower who worked for Trump at The Plaza. He inadvertently doxxed the minor as shown in the footage.
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 11:58a, 7/23/25
flown-the-coop said:
Francis Macomber said:
flown-the-coop said:
PaulsBunions said:
flown-the-coop said:
He always came across to me as a dumbarse. Now reading more about the math teacher / bear sterns tie ins it seems he was indeed intelligent, finishing school a couple years early.

From there he used charm with the ladies to get to gents who could get him connections.

Did the dude get some help and prime opportunities? Definitely seems so. Did that involve international arms deals? Seems so.

A good question is whether her was directed / administered by intelligence or if he was simply allowed to operate without repercussions as the intel collected from observation was worth it alone.


Seems like a good enough cause to force the govt to give us answers to that question then. I'd certainly want to know if our government is in the business of trafficking kids.


To answer that last part, unfortunately that is exactly the business the Biden admin was in.

The sins of Epstein and friends pale in comparison to the human tragedy that 4 years of open immigration free for all created.

Millions of rapes, tens of thousands into sex slavery and thousands of deaths.


Millions of rapes? Any credible link for that bullspit?

Wow, goaltending for Biden and his cartels are we? Thats not a great look but you go with it big guy.

You think its not millions? The numbers and accounts indicate otherwise. Do we have an ACTUAL count of these rapes? No, but we know even amongst victims of sexual violence here in the United States is grossly underreported given the very nature of the crimes.


Only thing I am goaltending for is actual truth and not saying ridiculous statements without any proof.

And just like I thought, you are just completely talking out of your ass with no basis in fact. Absolute joke.
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 12:01p, 7/23/25
"Find facts to discount my assertion or just simply take the side of rapists and traffickers."

One of the wildest false dichotomies I've read in a while. Just incredible work.
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In reply to Bones08 • 12:02p, 7/23/25
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"Find facts to discount my assertion or just simply take the side of rapists and traffickers."

One of the wildest false dichotomies I've read in a while. Just incredible work.

It's funny, because he is the one actually trying to run interference for known perpetrators in the Epstein orbit. How much of a coward and just bad person do you have to be to do things like this?
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In reply to Francis Macomber • 12:02p, 7/23/25
Francis Macomber said:
Only thing I am goaltending for is actual truth and not saying ridiculous statements without any proof.

And just like I thought, you are just completely talking out of your ass with no basis in fact. Absolute joke.


Like saying that MAGA was pedophile enabling?
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In reply to aginlakeway • 12:04p, 7/23/25
aginlakeway said:
Francis Macomber said:
Only thing I am goaltending for is actual truth and not saying ridiculous statements without any proof.

And just like I thought, you are just completely talking out of your ass with no basis in fact. Absolute joke.


Like saying that MAGA was pedophile enabling?

I'd say the comment I am replying to is a perfect example of MAGA covering for pedophiles.
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In reply to Francis Macomber • 12:06p, 7/23/25
Francis Macomber said:
aginlakeway said:
Francis Macomber said:
Only thing I am goaltending for is actual truth and not saying ridiculous statements without any proof.

And just like I thought, you are just completely talking out of your ass with no basis in fact. Absolute joke.


Like saying that MAGA was pedophile enabling?

I'd say the comment I am replying to is a perfect example of MAGA covering for pedophiles.


So specifically which pedophiles are MAGA covering for? And what proof do you have?
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In reply to Francis Macomber • 12:31p, 7/23/25
Francis Macomber said:

Only thing I am goaltending for is actual truth and not saying ridiculous statements without any proof.

And just like I thought, you are just completely talking out of your ass with no basis in fact. Absolute joke.

Does it hurt your feelings that I backed it up with numbers and facts?

That you continue to DISMISS the true tragedy of human trafficking and abuse of women is astonishing, but people who only care about Trump seem to travel down this path often.

I absolutely stand by my numbers. Common sense math tells you those numbers are supported.

But it is much easier to say another poster is a joke and talking out of their ass.

You stand for nothing. You dont stand for the truth, if you did, you would acknowledge that the problem of human trafficking is much bigger than "Epstein files".

But you seem to only be able to get it up for Trump hate. I get it, its widespread around here and on this thread.

Dismiss all you want. Shows who you really are.
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In reply to Francis Macomber • 12:37p, 7/23/25
Francis Macomber said:
aginlakeway said:
Francis Macomber said:
Only thing I am goaltending for is actual truth and not saying ridiculous statements without any proof.

And just like I thought, you are just completely talking out of your ass with no basis in fact. Absolute joke.


Like saying that MAGA was pedophile enabling?

I'd say the comment I am replying to is a perfect example of MAGA covering for pedophiles.

MAGA covering for pedophiles whilst pointing out true evil. What another disastrously off base take.

As the other poster says, which pedophiles are being covered for? If Trump engaged in it, I volunteer to put a bullet between his eyes.

But you hate Trump so much you want to shoot him between your eyes because... wait for it... your feels.

Sad. Very sad. And a little disgusting to be honest.

I have been very clear. I do not believe Trump engaged in nefarious activities with Epstein. I do not believe Epstein was murdered. I do believe Epstein, Ghislain, and other known conspirators of Epstein

It is also FACT that Trump has asked Bondi to release more information on Epstein. Something others have not done to date.

But you don't like facts nor do you have any desire for truth that may be inconvenient to your misguided feelings.
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In reply to Bones08 • 12:37p, 7/23/25
Bones08 said:
"Find facts to discount my assertion or just simply take the side of rapists and traffickers."

One of the wildest false dichotomies I've read in a while. Just incredible work.

Thanks for outing yourself. Spreadsheet updated.
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 1:13p, 7/23/25
flown-the-coop said:
Bones08 said:
"Find facts to discount my assertion or just simply take the side of rapists and traffickers."

One of the wildest false dichotomies I've read in a while. Just incredible work.

Thanks for outing yourself. Spreadsheet updated.
I've heard of the Epstein files, but the flown-the-coop files?!?
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In reply to Anonymous Source • 1:15p, 7/23/25
I wouldn't be against that, I THINK.

However, why didn't the Dems release it, they had it for a long time now?

They have tried to make it all about Trump.

Don't get gaslit!
"only one thing is important!"
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In reply to OPAG • 1:20p, 7/23/25
OPAG said:
I wouldn't be against that, I THINK.

However, why didn't the Dems release it, they had it for a long time now?

They have tried to make it all about Trump.

Don't get gaslit!

It's possible for Trump to NOT BE criminally implicated in the Epstein files, while still being compromised by Mossad in other ways.
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In reply to Keyno • 1:24p, 7/23/25
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OPAG said:
I wouldn't be against that, I THINK.

However, why didn't the Dems release it, they had it for a long time now?

They have tried to make it all about Trump.

Don't get gaslit!

It's possible for Trump to NOT BE criminally implicated in the Epstein files, while still being compromised by Mossad in other ways.

Trump being compromised by Mossad is below the credibility of Russia pee tapes. Holy heck.
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In reply to OPAG • 1:25p, 7/23/25
I think the obvious answer is that it also implicates the democrats too. Not sure they'd be willing to throw whatever rich donors/defacto political kings/celebs etc unless there was a major smoking gun with Trump.

I still haven't really found a good reason why Trump and his team haven't released everything. To me there are two options - there's nothing there and never has been, Epstein was just a creep but had limited connections to the elites, etc. Trump and co campaigned on that and then when they got in office they realized there's nothing to release. Otherwise, they would have jumped at the chance to let damaging public info out about the Clintons or others of that status, and I would hope they would do so if there's evidence there.

Or, he's connected to it in some way or that would be damaging enough that they don't want anything to get out. I agree that if it was anything major the dems would have leaked it already.

I'd say my guess currently is 90% the first and 10% the second. Not sure there's another explanation that makes sense at this point.
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 1:26p, 7/23/25
flown-the-coop said:
Keyno said:
OPAG said:
I wouldn't be against that, I THINK.

However, why didn't the Dems release it, they had it for a long time now?

They have tried to make it all about Trump.

Don't get gaslit!

It's possible for Trump to NOT BE criminally implicated in the Epstein files, while still being compromised by Mossad in other ways.

Trump being compromised by Mossad is below the credibility of Russia pee tapes. Holy heck.

If Epstein operation was Mossad (which is commonly believed), it would explain why Trump would cover it up despite not being criminally implicated by it
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 1:33p, 7/23/25
flown-the-coop said:
Looks like a father protecting his kids from a pedo.

Cue the Joe sniffing girls videos and how their parents acted.

Do CNN think this is a bad look? Are they upset he appears to be flipping the bird?

To add: Epstein got his in at Bear Sterns begging a parent to make an introduction. Epstein had a knack for forcing himself into introductions. We all know people like that, and we all know you don't do business with guys who act like that. I do not recall Trump doing business with him, but would need to check.


Epstein got his first job teaching math at the Dalton School and he was hired by Donald Barr. Donald was a former OSS/CIA employee and also the father of AG Bill Barr. Bill Barr was the AG when Epstein "killed himself". Food for thought.
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In reply to jwhaby • 1:37p, 7/23/25
jwhaby said:
flown-the-coop said:
Looks like a father protecting his kids from a pedo.

Cue the Joe sniffing girls videos and how their parents acted.

Do CNN think this is a bad look? Are they upset he appears to be flipping the bird?

To add: Epstein got his in at Bear Sterns begging a parent to make an introduction. Epstein had a knack for forcing himself into introductions. We all know people like that, and we all know you don't do business with guys who act like that. I do not recall Trump doing business with him, but would need to check.


Epstein got his first job teaching math at the Dalton School and he was hired by Donald Barr. Donald was a former OSS/CIA employee and also the father of AG Bill Barr. Bill Barr was the AG when Epstein "killed himself". Food for thought.


Correct. Daryl cooper covers it in his epic Epstein podcasts

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-martyr-made-podcast/id978322714?i=1000636512516

Tucker had him on last week, and they covered it all again in a more succinct format:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-tucker-carlson-show/id1719657632?i=1000717991182

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In reply to Keyno • 1:47p, 7/23/25
No it doesn't, what allegiance does Trump have to Israel or the Mossad? None, so it doesn't make sense.
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In reply to BQ78 • 1:50p, 7/23/25
BQ78 said:
No it doesn't, what allegiance does Trump have to Israel or the Mossad? None, so it doesn't make sense.

Being compromised does not require you to have allegiance to those compromising you lol. Although Trump himself often boasts he is the most pro Israel President ever
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