"Mystery third person" seen in new analysis of prison video from the night of Epstein's deathhttps://t.co/DX0yEAcDcn
— Not the Bee (@Not_the_Bee) July 31, 2025
"Mystery third person" seen in new analysis of prison video from the night of Epstein's deathhttps://t.co/DX0yEAcDcn
— Not the Bee (@Not_the_Bee) July 31, 2025
aginlakeway said:74OA said:aginlakeway said:74OA said:aginlakeway said:74OA said:flown-the-coop said:
The only reason people care so much here is to try and smear Trump.
?????? You seriously believe the uproar about this across MAGA-land is because all those millions of people who voted for and vociferously back Trump now suddenly want to smear him?
Come on, people care about this because Trump and his senior people pushed the coverup/conspiracy angle nonstop during the campaign. If people care about it "too much", that's all on him.
Release the evidence and let people make up their own minds. That's what they were promised.
OK. But 99%+ of the people in this country don't care about this. IMO. Not nearly as much as posters (like me) who are on this thread. We care about it a lot, for various reasons.
Again, I have yet to hear one person IRL being this topic up. And I hear a lot of political topics here in the Austin area.
You've surveyed 99% of the people? IRL this is still red hot online, particularly on sites long known for backing Trump to the hilt and if they weren't getting millions of clicks a day from "the people", they'd have dropped this issue long ago.
In your opinion, how many of the 340 million in this country really care about this? Other than serious political junkies like those on this thread? Do you really think millions care?
Like your claim that few care, I have no data to back me up. But, MAGA websites are still actively discussing this issue and they wouldn't do so if they weren't still getting the heavy viewer load to justify it. You can't wish that away.
MAGA websites = nothing but political junkies.
I am not trying to wish away anything. I am simply stating that political junkies care a lot more about this than most voters.
I think it's an interesting topic. But I'm in the minority. We'll see what happens next!
FWTXAg said:aginlakeway said:74OA said:aginlakeway said:74OA said:aginlakeway said:74OA said:flown-the-coop said:
The only reason people care so much here is to try and smear Trump.
?????? You seriously believe the uproar about this across MAGA-land is because all those millions of people who voted for and vociferously back Trump now suddenly want to smear him?
Come on, people care about this because Trump and his senior people pushed the coverup/conspiracy angle nonstop during the campaign. If people care about it "too much", that's all on him.
Release the evidence and let people make up their own minds. That's what they were promised.
OK. But 99%+ of the people in this country don't care about this. IMO. Not nearly as much as posters (like me) who are on this thread. We care about it a lot, for various reasons.
Again, I have yet to hear one person IRL being this topic up. And I hear a lot of political topics here in the Austin area.
You've surveyed 99% of the people? IRL this is still red hot online, particularly on sites long known for backing Trump to the hilt and if they weren't getting millions of clicks a day from "the people", they'd have dropped this issue long ago.
In your opinion, how many of the 340 million in this country really care about this? Other than serious political junkies like those on this thread? Do you really think millions care?
Like your claim that few care, I have no data to back me up. But, MAGA websites are still actively discussing this issue and they wouldn't do so if they weren't still getting the heavy viewer load to justify it. You can't wish that away.
MAGA websites = nothing but political junkies.
I am not trying to wish away anything. I am simply stating that political junkies care a lot more about this than most voters.
I think it's an interesting topic. But I'm in the minority. We'll see what happens next!
I can assure you that most voters care nothing about detailed policy or practical legislation which no longer exists in this Country.
The average American voter on either side cares much much more about the "Epstein Files", other government coverups, the obvious two tiered Justice System, sky high living costs, congress members and the executive branch enriching themselves while in office and after leaving when they jump in bed feet first with their donors, and locking Hillary up than they ever will about more nuanced political discussions.
The Epstein ordeal is not going away. I'm not sure what circles you run around in, but anyone under the age of 40 is talking about Jeffrey Epstein right now and will continue to until someone or something substantial happens. I'm fairly certain we're well past the point of the DOJ or FBI ever releasing anything substantial that they should have years ago, so something is going to give. Not sure what that will be, but I imagine we'll find out.
flown-the-coop said:
Yea, it's really not what people are talking about.
You hear more "have you seen the markets! Turns out Trump was right on tariffs too!" And maybe a "I still think they should arrest Clinton and Dersh for going to Epstein Island". Even the homes of "he did not kill himself" have grown tired.
But maybe you got him this time.
Ervin Burrell said:
Aginlakeway is gunking up the thread with pointless questions he's asked 6,000 times already? Noooo wayyy.
flown-the-coop said:
Yeah and you and others keep saying you care about sex trafficking but keep coming back to chirp about how bad you think this makes Trump look and people are going to turn away from him.
His actual supporters care about actual initiatives to address human trafficking. Like closing the border, deporting sex offenders, going after sex offenders, funding law enforcement programs.
Some may point to funding cuts to US AID types, but it's clear that money was simply being laundered. Melania focuses on this as well.
So figure out what you are actually about. Cause claiming it's justice for the victims falls flat when you do nothing else about it but post about how bad Trump is.
FWTXAg said:flown-the-coop said:
Yea, it's really not what people are talking about.
You hear more "have you seen the markets! Turns out Trump was right on tariffs too!" And maybe a "I still think they should arrest Clinton and Dersh for going to Epstein Island". Even the homes of "he did not kill himself" have grown tired.
But maybe you got him this time.
That's where you're getting this so mixed up lol
Most people who are interested in this ordeal aren't trying to just get Trump, they're trying to get everyone. Some are locked on Trump for political reasons sure, but you don't have to just run to protect his honor, he's a big boy.
I'm certainly not, hell I hope he does a great job and he ends up
being the most successful President that we've ever had because I love our Country.
People have a strong inclination that something nefarious is being held back by the people who truly own and operate the United States of America (hint: its not Trump, or Obama, or Biden, or Clinton, or Pelosi they are all paid actors).
You don't have to view everyone who is tired of the corruption as an enemy because they don't constantly defend Trump or his administrations actions. I don't think many in this Country truly believe that Donald Trump was participating in the same activities that Epstein was, what the world would like to know at this point is;
Who else actually participated?
When did they participate?
Who knew what Epstein was up to or had an inclination to know? (This is the camp that I think Trump might be in along with many others which could be the only reason this has been handled as poorly as it has been)
Did our government know and to what degree?
Why did the most "transparent administration in history" do such an about-face and then backtrack?
Interesting questions right?
As I said above I hope that I and many others are wrong and that you are right that Epstein was just the Devil walking among us and nobody else besides Maxwell knew. Time will tell.
74OA said:aginlakeway said:74OA said:aginlakeway said:74OA said:aginlakeway said:74OA said:flown-the-coop said:
The only reason people care so much here is to try and smear Trump.
?????? You seriously believe the uproar about this across MAGA-land is because all those millions of people who voted for and vociferously back Trump now suddenly want to smear him?
Come on, people care about this because Trump and his senior people pushed the coverup/conspiracy angle nonstop during the campaign. If people care about it "too much", that's all on him.
Release the evidence and let people make up their own minds. That's what they were promised.
OK. But 99%+ of the people in this country don't care about this. IMO. Not nearly as much as posters (like me) who are on this thread. We care about it a lot, for various reasons.
Again, I have yet to hear one person IRL being this topic up. And I hear a lot of political topics here in the Austin area.
You've surveyed 99% of the people? IRL this is still red hot online, particularly on sites long known for backing Trump to the hilt and if they weren't getting millions of clicks a day from "the people", they'd have dropped this issue long ago.
In your opinion, how many of the 340 million in this country really care about this? Other than serious political junkies like those on this thread? Do you really think millions care?
Like your claim that few care, I have no data to back me up. But, MAGA websites are still actively discussing this issue and they wouldn't do so if they weren't still getting the heavy viewer load to justify it. You can't wish that away.
MAGA websites = nothing but political junkies.
I am not trying to wish away anything. I am simply stating that political junkies care a lot more about this than most voters.
I think it's an interesting topic. But I'm in the minority. We'll see what happens next!
I suspect much of the outrage is directed at what is likely a long list of wealthy serial abusers who have so far all gotten away with hurting kids without so much as a slap on the wrist.
If the victims and their families continue to speak out about the damage done, like the Giuffres are doing, I suspect public anger will endure.
Anyway, that's my interest, it's not political and I don't think it's going easily away.
flown-the-coop said:74OA said:aginlakeway said:74OA said:aginlakeway said:74OA said:aginlakeway said:74OA said:flown-the-coop said:
The only reason people care so much here is to try and smear Trump.
?????? You seriously believe the uproar about this across MAGA-land is because all those millions of people who voted for and vociferously back Trump now suddenly want to smear him?
Come on, people care about this because Trump and his senior people pushed the coverup/conspiracy angle nonstop during the campaign. If people care about it "too much", that's all on him.
Release the evidence and let people make up their own minds. That's what they were promised.
OK. But 99%+ of the people in this country don't care about this. IMO. Not nearly as much as posters (like me) who are on this thread. We care about it a lot, for various reasons.
Again, I have yet to hear one person IRL being this topic up. And I hear a lot of political topics here in the Austin area.
You've surveyed 99% of the people? IRL this is still red hot online, particularly on sites long known for backing Trump to the hilt and if they weren't getting millions of clicks a day from "the people", they'd have dropped this issue long ago.
In your opinion, how many of the 340 million in this country really care about this? Other than serious political junkies like those on this thread? Do you really think millions care?
Like your claim that few care, I have no data to back me up. But, MAGA websites are still actively discussing this issue and they wouldn't do so if they weren't still getting the heavy viewer load to justify it. You can't wish that away.
MAGA websites = nothing but political junkies.
I am not trying to wish away anything. I am simply stating that political junkies care a lot more about this than most voters.
I think it's an interesting topic. But I'm in the minority. We'll see what happens next!
I suspect much of the outrage is directed at what is likely a long list of wealthy serial abusers who have so far all gotten away with hurting kids without so much as a slap on the wrist.
If the victims and their families continue to speak out about the damage done, like the Giuffres are doing, I suspect public anger will endure.
Anyway, that's my interest, it's not political and I don't think it's going easily away.
Did the Giuggres have any explanation on why they let their young daughter fly to far off places with Epstein and Maxwell? Seems pretty rich they would be clamoring for more information.
In fact, any family of the victims need to be put to this same scrutiny. These girls were NOT abducted in the middle of the night. If I am not mistaken, many came from affluent families (or as friends thereof) and it was a friend of a regular whose mom blew the whistle back when.
FlyRod said:
Human trafficking, whether it involves children or not, is beyond morally repulsive and sick beyond words. Whether former President Clinton was involved, or the current occupant of the White House. Disgusting, sick, and absolutely indefensible.
May the light finally shine bright on this nauseating story and lay all the facts bare.
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All true and absolutely none of it justifies what was done to those kids. Quit lawyering this thing and trying to blame everyone except the abusers.
flown-the-coop said:
If you are worried about government cover-ups, what do you think of Clapper and Brennan and Comey working in cahoots with Obama and Biden and Hilldawg to keep Trump from being elected, inaugurated and able to serve out his four terms?
And this is not a derail, I am simply challenging the basis of your continued posts insisting Trump is part of some cover-up. The man who has exposed more government corruption and coverup than anyone ever comprehended and nearly got killed (twice) for it is now Deep Stating to cover for Bill and former bff Epstein?
Are you even serious?
Take a step back from Reddit or CNN and actually look at what is going on here. You are simply being a willing participant in another MSM witch hunt.
OPAG said:FlyRod said:
Human trafficking, whether it involves children or not, is beyond morally repulsive and sick beyond words. Whether former President Clinton was involved, or the current occupant of the White House. Disgusting, sick, and absolutely indefensible.
May the light finally shine bright on this nauseating story and lay all the facts bare.
There has been massive human trafficking coming across our boarder big time through NGO's and the last administration, 300K unaccompanied kids.
As nasty as Epstein is, it is a drop in the bucket compared to what was facilitated and been done across our boarders.
I know this, I had a mom and her 15 year old daughter show up in park and ask for help because we were in circle praying.
Her story was chilling,
1. She should of never come to the US, she had a teaching job and her daughter was in school doing well
2. She was with a man who was not her husband, who claimed to be her husband at the border
3. They asked him for proof of marriage, of course he had none, He did have her passport and important items, like her passport and most her money.
4. They immediately separated her and daughter from him. Put him in a room, they thought he was a traficker, and eventually let her and the daughter go through with nothing and he was the one who had made arrangements to meet someone when they got through. An NGO gave her a ride to a place, she got a phone. Got a plane flight to where she knew the "husband's contact lived' paid for by us!
And yes they were seeking asylum and there was ZERO reason for them to seek asylum, They had been approached and told exactly what to do and that things would be great in the US and paid around 10K to do this. !
5. So here she is desperate with a 15 year old daughter, turned lose in the US with nothing. We helped her for a short time, but strongly encouraged her to go home. I do not know what she did once she left us.
That's what happened, thousands of times under Biden, But Epstein, oh now they care about this.
Keyno said:flown-the-coop said:
If you are worried about government cover-ups, what do you think of Clapper and Brennan and Comey working in cahoots with Obama and Biden and Hilldawg to keep Trump from being elected, inaugurated and able to serve out his four terms?
And this is not a derail, I am simply challenging the basis of your continued posts insisting Trump is part of some cover-up. The man who has exposed more government corruption and coverup than anyone ever comprehended and nearly got killed (twice) for it is now Deep Stating to cover for Bill and former bff Epstein?
Are you even serious?
Take a step back from Reddit or CNN and actually look at what is going on here. You are simply being a willing participant in another MSM witch hunt.
Uh I hate all of that stuff. I cannot comprehend why Trump doesn't arrest these people the way he regularly alludes to doing. Why doesn't Trump arrest them? Adds more fuel to my suspicions of Trump
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You want Trump to start arresting people? This isn't North Korea.
Queso1 said:
How many days has it been since those morons posed with the binders?
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Maxwell is currently serving a 20-year sentence for her role in helping Epstein recruit, groom, and abuse young girls. She was being held at a federal prison in Tallahassee. Now, she's at the Federal Prison Camp Bryan in southeast Texas, a Bureau of Prisons spokesperson told the Sun.
flown-the-coop said:aginlakeway said:74OA said:
Like your claim that few care, I have no data to back me up. But, MAGA websites are still actively discussing this issue and they wouldn't do so if they weren't still getting the heavy viewer load to justify it. You can't wish that away.
MAGA websites = nothing but political junkies.
I am not trying to wish away anything. I am simply stating that political junkies care a lot more about this than most voters.
I think it's an interesting topic. But I'm in the minority. We'll see what happens next!
Those podcast bros and purported "MAGA websites" will find themselves on the outside looking in if they join the Dems in pushing this v other priorities and much, much bigger and more important subjects.
And we do not need to wish it away, it will simply go away on its own.
Queso1 said:
How many days has it been since those morons posed with the binders?
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flown-the-coop said:
Yea, it's really not what people are talking about.
You hear more "have you seen the markets! Turns out Trump was right on tariffs too!" And maybe a "I still think they should arrest Clinton and Dersh for going to Epstein Island". Even the homes of "he did not kill himself" have grown tired.
But maybe you got him this time.