Sedition by a former president should be THE story. Epstein pales in comparison.
DOJ: Epstein killed himself, no client list
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aginlakeway said:PaulsBunions said:Rapier108 said:aginlakeway said:PaulsBunions said:aginlakeway said:PaulsBunions said:aginlakeway said:PaulsBunions said:aginlakeway said:PaulsBunions said:Rapier108 said:
Trump has been after Massie long before the insanity over Epstein started.
But that doesn't stop the Epsteiners from seeing something that isn't there.
This has truly reached Q-Anon level of insanity.
Actually, Q would be embarrassed by it.
There'd be no harm in releasing the files then
In your opinion, what are "the files" specifically that you want released?
And how is the release of innocent people's names not harmful?
I think what Massie put in his HR is reasonable. If they're innocent why would the files say otherwise? If the Biden admin doctored the files, can they not say who doctored it and when? Instead they're saying "oh we looked into and nothing was there trust us, and if you keep asking you're a traitor to MAGA".
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-resolution/581?overview=closed
So you want to release "files" that include names, including people or simple associates who are innocent?
When has that ever happened in any investigation?
If they're innocent, and the files don't show any indication of them being guilty, why does it matter? I would prefer the government be forced to release everything they have since they've lied to citizens before and this whole thing smells of a coverup.
To your investigation question, the HR explicitly withholds info relating to an ongoing investigation. And to be honest I don't really care if it has never happened before, the fed has gotten away with too much operating how they have previously. IMO you can't "drain the swamp" by giving the swamp an out.
(C) would jeopardize an active federal investigation or ongoing prosecution, provided that such withholding is narrowly tailored and temporary;
So you want INNOCENT peoples name released as part of the "Epstein files?" You want the names of all associates or anyone who dealt with Epstein?
Those people's lives will be destroyed. And they are innocent. HUGE legal and libel issue with doing this.
When have innocent people's names ever been released to the public as part of a criminal investigation? When a mass murderer is convicted, names of his innocent associates are not released.
Yeah I want everything released about it. How could it be a libel issue if the releases files show no wrongdoing by an innocent person? Seems like a weak issue to harp on ngl. I highly doubt lives will be destroyed by an innocent person being proven innocent by the full release of the files lol
100% disagree. People will be termed guilty just by association. And they were be outed online and their lives will be ruined.
In no situation are the innocent associates of sex offender names released to the public.
The Epsteiners don't care. They're perfectly happy with ruining innocent lives if it means getting Clinton, Gates, Trump, or whoever else they hate.
And they always seem to forget or ignore the fact that releasing "everything" means releasing hundreds if not thousands of hours of kiddie porn, which is never going to happen.
You mean the kiddie porn that is explicitly withheld in Massie's HR? Implying anybody wants CP released is willful ignorance at this point. If a file says "Epstein met with Mr Smith the banker on Jan 1 2013 for a meeting at Mr Smith's office" and there's nothing else on Mr Smith, why would anybody care about Mr Smith?
The Trump admin had their chance to be transparent and chose to just say "we're moving on from this the government investigated themselves and found nothing further", despite releasing binders to influencers that said "Epstein part 1". Drastic times cause for drastic measures to hold govt accountable.
OK. But when is that sort of info ever released in a pedophile case? It's not. The names of the innocent aren't released in order to protect their privacy and ensure their safety.
When has there ever been allegations of the government covering up a pedophile ring operated by a possible foreign agent used to leverage pressure on our government? This is not some pervert in Hays county, this is something that has reeked of coverup for half a decade. Sorry, the fed has worn out all good faith it has with how much it has been caught lying to Americans in the past. Do you still trust DC bureaucrats?
PaulsBunions said:
When has there ever been allegations of the government covering up a pedophile ring operated by a possible foreign agent used to leverage pressure on our government? This is not some pervert in Hays county, this is something that has reeked of coverup for half a decade. Sorry, the fed has worn out all good faith it has with how much it has been caught lying to Americans in the past. Do you still trust DC bureaucrats?
It is illegal to release that GJ information because people are accused of crimes who have not actually been charged with crimes. Democrats know that and are making it an issue. That information absolutely SHOULD NOT be released. The consequences of doing so would be devastating to our justice system. Democrats are already taking a wrecking ball to it.
PaulsBunions said:
When has there ever been allegations of the government covering up a pedophile ring operated by a possible foreign agent used to leverage pressure on our government? This is not some pervert in Hays county, this is something that has reeked of coverup for half a decade. Sorry, the fed has worn out all good faith it has with how much it has been caught lying to Americans in the past. Do you still trust DC bureaucrats?
The names of the innocent aren't released in order to protect their privacy and ensure their safety. That's a basic concept.
You want to punish the innocent because of government incompetence? Seriously?
no way he is on any list, would of come out when they had control of it, years ago.
this just another Russia, Russia, Russia attempt, except it's now Epstein,
Epstein , Epstein.
and they are being baited by Trump, again.
this just another Russia, Russia, Russia attempt, except it's now Epstein,
Epstein , Epstein.
and they are being baited by Trump, again.
"only one thing is important!"
HTownAg98 said:Statement from @DAGToddBlanche:
— Attorney General Pamela Bondi (@AGPamBondi) July 22, 2025
This Department of Justice does not shy away from uncomfortable truths, nor from the responsibility to pursue justice wherever the facts may lead. The joint statement by the DOJ and FBI of July 6 remains as accurate today as it was when it was…
I'll take "Things That Will Never Happen," for $600, Ken.
yep and you can add "victim accussers who are getting a pay day to bring up accusations that were never mentioned some 20 years before.
"only one thing is important!"
PaulsBunions said:Rapier108 said:aginlakeway said:PaulsBunions said:aginlakeway said:PaulsBunions said:aginlakeway said:PaulsBunions said:aginlakeway said:PaulsBunions said:Rapier108 said:
Trump has been after Massie long before the insanity over Epstein started.
But that doesn't stop the Epsteiners from seeing something that isn't there.
This has truly reached Q-Anon level of insanity.
Actually, Q would be embarrassed by it.
There'd be no harm in releasing the files then
In your opinion, what are "the files" specifically that you want released?
And how is the release of innocent people's names not harmful?
I think what Massie put in his HR is reasonable. If they're innocent why would the files say otherwise? If the Biden admin doctored the files, can they not say who doctored it and when? Instead they're saying "oh we looked into and nothing was there trust us, and if you keep asking you're a traitor to MAGA".
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-resolution/581?overview=closed
So you want to release "files" that include names, including people or simple associates who are innocent?
When has that ever happened in any investigation?
If they're innocent, and the files don't show any indication of them being guilty, why does it matter? I would prefer the government be forced to release everything they have since they've lied to citizens before and this whole thing smells of a coverup.
To your investigation question, the HR explicitly withholds info relating to an ongoing investigation. And to be honest I don't really care if it has never happened before, the fed has gotten away with too much operating how they have previously. IMO you can't "drain the swamp" by giving the swamp an out.
(C) would jeopardize an active federal investigation or ongoing prosecution, provided that such withholding is narrowly tailored and temporary;
So you want INNOCENT peoples name released as part of the "Epstein files?" You want the names of all associates or anyone who dealt with Epstein?
Those people's lives will be destroyed. And they are innocent. HUGE legal and libel issue with doing this.
When have innocent people's names ever been released to the public as part of a criminal investigation? When a mass murderer is convicted, names of his innocent associates are not released.
Yeah I want everything released about it. How could it be a libel issue if the releases files show no wrongdoing by an innocent person? Seems like a weak issue to harp on ngl. I highly doubt lives will be destroyed by an innocent person being proven innocent by the full release of the files lol
100% disagree. People will be termed guilty just by association. And they were be outed online and their lives will be ruined.
In no situation are the innocent associates of sex offender names released to the public.
The Epsteiners don't care. They're perfectly happy with ruining innocent lives if it means getting Clinton, Gates, Trump, or whoever else they hate.
And they always seem to forget or ignore the fact that releasing "everything" means releasing hundreds if not thousands of hours of kiddie porn, which is never going to happen.
You mean the kiddie porn that is explicitly withheld in Massie's HR? Implying anybody wants CP released is willful ignorance at this point. If a file says "Epstein met with Mr Smith the banker on Jan 1 2013 for a meeting at Mr Smith's office" and there's nothing else on Mr Smith, why would anybody care about Mr Smith?
The Trump admin had their chance to be transparent and chose to just say "we're moving on from this the government investigated themselves and found nothing further", despite releasing binders to influencers that said "Epstein part 1". Drastic times cause for drastic measures to hold govt accountable.
The "oh, you want EVERYTHING released? You want to see videos of children being diddled? GROSS!" argument is so f'ing lazy and stupid, and the fact that some people's minds even go there is disturbing.
Also, glad to see aginlakeway is still asking the same question he's asked 6,000 times on this thread already.
aginlakeway said:PaulsBunions said:Rapier108 said:aginlakeway said:PaulsBunions said:aginlakeway said:PaulsBunions said:aginlakeway said:PaulsBunions said:aginlakeway said:PaulsBunions said:Rapier108 said:
Trump has been after Massie long before the insanity over Epstein started.
But that doesn't stop the Epsteiners from seeing something that isn't there.
This has truly reached Q-Anon level of insanity.
Actually, Q would be embarrassed by it.
There'd be no harm in releasing the files then
In your opinion, what are "the files" specifically that you want released?
And how is the release of innocent people's names not harmful?
I think what Massie put in his HR is reasonable. If they're innocent why would the files say otherwise? If the Biden admin doctored the files, can they not say who doctored it and when? Instead they're saying "oh we looked into and nothing was there trust us, and if you keep asking you're a traitor to MAGA".
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-resolution/581?overview=closed
So you want to release "files" that include names, including people or simple associates who are innocent?
When has that ever happened in any investigation?
If they're innocent, and the files don't show any indication of them being guilty, why does it matter? I would prefer the government be forced to release everything they have since they've lied to citizens before and this whole thing smells of a coverup.
To your investigation question, the HR explicitly withholds info relating to an ongoing investigation. And to be honest I don't really care if it has never happened before, the fed has gotten away with too much operating how they have previously. IMO you can't "drain the swamp" by giving the swamp an out.
(C) would jeopardize an active federal investigation or ongoing prosecution, provided that such withholding is narrowly tailored and temporary;
So you want INNOCENT peoples name released as part of the "Epstein files?" You want the names of all associates or anyone who dealt with Epstein?
Those people's lives will be destroyed. And they are innocent. HUGE legal and libel issue with doing this.
When have innocent people's names ever been released to the public as part of a criminal investigation? When a mass murderer is convicted, names of his innocent associates are not released.
Yeah I want everything released about it. How could it be a libel issue if the releases files show no wrongdoing by an innocent person? Seems like a weak issue to harp on ngl. I highly doubt lives will be destroyed by an innocent person being proven innocent by the full release of the files lol
100% disagree. People will be termed guilty just by association. And they were be outed online and their lives will be ruined.
In no situation are the innocent associates of sex offender names released to the public.
The Epsteiners don't care. They're perfectly happy with ruining innocent lives if it means getting Clinton, Gates, Trump, or whoever else they hate.
And they always seem to forget or ignore the fact that releasing "everything" means releasing hundreds if not thousands of hours of kiddie porn, which is never going to happen.
You mean the kiddie porn that is explicitly withheld in Massie's HR? Implying anybody wants CP released is willful ignorance at this point. If a file says "Epstein met with Mr Smith the banker on Jan 1 2013 for a meeting at Mr Smith's office" and there's nothing else on Mr Smith, why would anybody care about Mr Smith?
The Trump admin had their chance to be transparent and chose to just say "we're moving on from this the government investigated themselves and found nothing further", despite releasing binders to influencers that said "Epstein part 1". Drastic times cause for drastic measures to hold govt accountable.
OK. But when is that sort of info ever released in a pedophile case? It's not. The names of the innocent aren't released in order to protect their privacy and ensure their safety.
I know for a fact that former spouses of pedos and pederasts live under constant threat.
This whole thing reminds me of buying a used car. No matter how many times I tell them not to add extras in the contract, they ALWAYS do. They must get away with lying so often that they just assume I'll accept it. Then they always act shocked when I call their bluff and cancel the deal. Then they say they'll remove the extras, and get even more shocked when I tell them no, because I don't conduct business with liars.
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Ellis Wyatt said:
Sedition by a former president should be THE story. Epstein pales in comparison.
Porque no los dos? They promised both. No one forced them to go there with Epstein. They went there of their own volition.
We want them to do what they themselves said they would do--release the names, prosecute the guilty--or accountability for failing to act upon their own promises to the American people
Instead, we will get nothing on either, while being scolded and insulted for daring to attempt to seek any justice or accountability. Frankly, it's pathetic.
Keep talking about Epstein.
BREAKING: The judge handling the case requested by AG Bondi to unseal the Epstein grand jury files has issued a response. The court has stated that DOJ must provide specific details, including which transcripts it wants unsealed, and that input from victims is also required.
— Election Wizard (@ElectionWiz) July 22, 2025
"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."
- Abraham Lincoln
- Abraham Lincoln
This might be the best year in modern history for every normal member of society that does not live and die along party lines.
The People are going to have the chance to go scorched Earth on both sides of the ruling class at the same time.
Trump and admin are going to go nuclear on Obama, Comey, and Co. for sedition and Russia, Russia, Russia.
While simultaneously MAGA, Moderates, and Democrats are going to burn down the house of Trump from inside with the Epstein bondoogle and cover-up.
Us regular folks should be celebrating instead of fighting our fellow monkeys sitting in the cage next to us.
The People are going to have the chance to go scorched Earth on both sides of the ruling class at the same time.
Trump and admin are going to go nuclear on Obama, Comey, and Co. for sedition and Russia, Russia, Russia.
While simultaneously MAGA, Moderates, and Democrats are going to burn down the house of Trump from inside with the Epstein bondoogle and cover-up.
Us regular folks should be celebrating instead of fighting our fellow monkeys sitting in the cage next to us.
FWTXAg said:
Us regular folks
Are the libertarians your regular folks?
this is cope, at this point the people spamming this just sound like they're trying to convince themselves.OPAG said:
no way he is on any list, would of come out when they had control of it, years ago.
trump spent his entire life embedded in these circles, and based on his reactions the last few weeks it's entirely reasonable to conclude he's involved in whatever protection racket exists to shield rich and powerful people from consequences for their associations with epstein. honestly it's wild that some of his supporters ever convinced themselves he was the maverick outsider who'd tear it all down.
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You keep believing that. That's crazy.
FWTXAg said:
This might be the best year in modern history for every normal member of society that does not live and die along party lines.
The People are going to have the chance to go scorched Earth on both sides of the ruling class at the same time.
Trump and admin are going to go nuclear on Obama, Comey, and Co. for sedition and Russia, Russia, Russia.
While simultaneously MAGA, Moderates, and Democrats are going to burn down the house of Trump from inside with the Epstein bondoogle and cover-up.
Us regular folks should be celebrating instead of fighting our fellow monkeys sitting in the cage next to us.
The Trump administrations are nothing if not WWE-level entertaining. And to think, we get 3.5 more years of this.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
No Spin Ag said:FWTXAg said:
This might be the best year in modern history for every normal member of society that does not live and die along party lines.
The People are going to have the chance to go scorched Earth on both sides of the ruling class at the same time.
Trump and admin are going to go nuclear on Obama, Comey, and Co. for sedition and Russia, Russia, Russia.
While simultaneously MAGA, Moderates, and Democrats are going to burn down the house of Trump from inside with the Epstein bondoogle and cover-up.
Us regular folks should be celebrating instead of fighting our fellow monkeys sitting in the cage next to us.
The Trump administrations are nothing if not WWE-level entertaining. And to think, we get 3.5 more years of this.
Wonder how Trump threatened Mike Johnson. This is so dirty it's incredible.
Danimal said:
Wonder how Trump threatened Mike Johnson. This is so dirty it's incredible.
Trump ordered his DOJ to seek release of grand jury material AND to setup a deposition of Ghislaine, something the Biden DOJ could not find time to do during the 4 years of his presidency.
But yeah, this is about Trump threatening Mike Johnson.
The lies and misdirection by the left and never Trumperz is not incredible, as it is simply tiresome, repetitive and increasingly desperate.
I don't recall the Biden DOJ investigating Obama's role in Russiagate either? Does that mean the Trump Administration shouldn't investigate that?
The fact of the matter is the Biden Administration and campaign surrogates didn't make a bunch on noise about releasing the files, put on a dog and pony show and then back track and claim there was no information. The fact that they have lied to the American public should matter to you.
The fact of the matter is the Biden Administration and campaign surrogates didn't make a bunch on noise about releasing the files, put on a dog and pony show and then back track and claim there was no information. The fact that they have lied to the American public should matter to you.
They're never going to release anything substantial, but man it is fun to watch both sides squirm and crawfish to protect their interests.
AgDev01 said:
I don't recall the Biden DOJ investigating Obama's role in Russiagate either? Does that mean the Trump Administration shouldn't investigate that?
The fact of the matter is the Biden Administration and campaign surrogates didn't make a bunch on noise about releasing the files, put on a dog and pony show and then back track and claim there was no information. The fact that they have lied to the American public should matter to you.
You missed this part of my post:
Quote:
Trump ordered his DOJ to seek release of grand jury material AND to setup a deposition of Ghislaine, something the Biden DOJ could not find time to do during the 4 years of his presidency.
And that sort of undercuts your Trump lied, dog and pony, file releasing mumbling you concluded with.
FWTXAg said:
They're never going to release anything substantial, but man it is fun to watch both sides squirm and crawfish to protect their interests.
Trump ordered his DOJ to seek release of grand jury material AND to setup a deposition of Ghislaine, something the Biden DOJ could not find time to do during the 4 years of his presidency.
One side is investigating. The other is trying to distract from Trump's winning.
Ellis Wyatt said:
Sedition by a former president should be THE story. Epstein pales in comparison.
You fell for the "what's this" *points at chest then flicks nose*. A lot as a kid didn't you?
Don't need videos. Transcripts, bank records of the billion plus dollars in wire transfers, and flight manifests would be a good start.
revvie said:
Don't need videos. Transcripts, bank records of the billion plus dollars in wire transfers, and flight manifests would be a good start.
Flight logs were released years ago.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
Quote:
flight manifests
Made public quite some time ago.
I'm Gipper
Mattressburn said:Ellis Wyatt said:
Sedition by a former president should be THE story. Epstein pales in comparison.
You fell for the "what's this" *points at chest then flicks nose*. A lot as a kid didn't you?
I've been paying attention for years. I know what happened with the seditious conspiracy, which has much greater ramifications for America. Maybe you should tune in.
My thoughts this morning on the Epstein resolution… https://t.co/LSlsRBs0s9
— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) July 22, 2025
Ag13 said:
Yet another thread derailed by aginlakeway's incessant "I'm just asking questions" style of trolling.
PaulsBunions said:My thoughts this morning on the Epstein resolution… https://t.co/LSlsRBs0s9
— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) July 22, 2025
Massie should be doing a discharge petition if he wants the House to vote on his resolution.
Instead he really just wants to run to the cameras to *****, moan, and whine some more.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
I am glad some other folk see Massie for what he is. A worthless swamp rat caring only about his airtime.
Forget the files related to sex trafficking, DNI should release the files they have on Epstein. He's been dead for 6 years and the people he worked with 30-50 years ago are long dead and the information should no longer be sensitive. There shouldn't be any issues with sources and methods.
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