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flown-the-coop said:
Got him?!
Yep. They got him now!!!
(Unsure what Trump is guilty of doing, but they got him now.)
aginlakeway said:flown-the-coop said:
Got him?!
Yep. They got him now!!!
(Unsure what Trump is guilty of doing, but they got him now.)
It's a shame they care more about that then the well being of the country.
flown-the-coop said:
Damn, Trump called Holldawg and had her place an order.
That solves it, this **** is confirmed. Trump and William Jefferson aka Bubba were helping Epstein and Maxwell run an elite pedo society and international arms, drugs program with the CIA and Mossad providing cover.
It all makes so much sense now!
Im not sure why you keep posting nonsense like this to try to make any legit Epstein claims seem outlandishly stupid. The facts around Epstein's ties to intel and back door financing are well documented. Just as his inappropriate activity with underage girls is.
It makes you look desperate. There are better ways to defend Trump against the leftist BS narratives than to try to lump everything into one big "hoax".
aginlakeway said:flown-the-coop said:
Got him?!
Yep. They got him now!!!
(Unsure what Trump is guilty of doing, but they got him now.)
All we know for sure at this point is Trump is committing a coverup. Whether its to protect himself, or just to protect the system of corruption is the question
Keyno said:aginlakeway said:flown-the-coop said:
Got him?!
Yep. They got him now!!!
(Unsure what Trump is guilty of doing, but they got him now.)
All we know for sure at this point is Trump is committing a coverup. Whether its to protect himself, or just to protect the system of corruption is the question
Who is we?
What coverup do "we know" for sure that he is committing? And how do "we know" for sure that he is committing it?
Keyno said:aginlakeway said:flown-the-coop said:
Got him?!
Yep. They got him now!!!
(Unsure what Trump is guilty of doing, but they got him now.)
All we know for sure at this point is Trump is committing a coverup. Whether its to protect himself, or just to protect the system of corruption is the question
I wouldn't go that far.
Now, is Trump and everyone that has access doing all he can to get all the facts out to those who were told it would be provided to them? Obviously, that's a no.
Now, is it a cover up? That depends on the eye of the beholder. Up until Trump got in office, more than current on the right thought the Epstein stuff was being covered up. Now that Trump is saying, for whatever reason, "there's nothing to see here, don't look behind the curtain", there's far less people saying there's a cover up. It makes one wonder if those who no longer, all of a sudden, concerned about the cover up ever really were. That or they're just doing and saying what Trump is wanting then to.
Either way, strange days indeed.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
I want it all out there just like the rest of you.
But there could be legal issues with releasing the info. Also have to think about the victims, etc.
I do think they should absolutely release anything they can, but if there are current investigations, victims that don't want the info public, etc. It needs to be done the right way, but needs to be done.
Hypothetical...
If someone that was taken by and is/was a victim of Epstein et al, and has been living a normal life for the past 20-30 years after leaving Epstein. But when they were being used by Epstein they were made to sleep with 100 different guys/gals, or other depraved things, you don't think that could have an impact on their marriage/life or kids if it got out there?
Even redacted names and information can be figured out. Happens all the time. Especially with all the eyes that are on this case.
I think Bondi, etc underestimated the time to get everything in order to release the information. I do think a lot will come out, it will just need more time than what they thought.
Trump will be in the documents, but I am doubtful there is anything in there about Trump that will be some huge revelation. If there was something there it would have been weaponized against Trump LOOOONG ago.
But there could be legal issues with releasing the info. Also have to think about the victims, etc.
I do think they should absolutely release anything they can, but if there are current investigations, victims that don't want the info public, etc. It needs to be done the right way, but needs to be done.
Hypothetical...
If someone that was taken by and is/was a victim of Epstein et al, and has been living a normal life for the past 20-30 years after leaving Epstein. But when they were being used by Epstein they were made to sleep with 100 different guys/gals, or other depraved things, you don't think that could have an impact on their marriage/life or kids if it got out there?
Even redacted names and information can be figured out. Happens all the time. Especially with all the eyes that are on this case.
I think Bondi, etc underestimated the time to get everything in order to release the information. I do think a lot will come out, it will just need more time than what they thought.
Trump will be in the documents, but I am doubtful there is anything in there about Trump that will be some huge revelation. If there was something there it would have been weaponized against Trump LOOOONG ago.
Yep. But that won't stop people from "knowing" that Trump did something horribly wrong ... even if there's zero proof that he did.
aginlakeway said:
Yep. But that won't stop people from "knowing" that Trump did something horribly wrong ... even if there's zero proof that he did.
I would say a majority of the population suspected there was more to the Epstein story than was being release before trump was elected. Trump himself as well as Patel and Bongino fueled this speculation. I don't blindly trust Trump. Just because he says the matter is settled, does not make it so.
You are conflating 2 separate issues- the cover up and any potential crimes trump committed. I don't necessarily think the Epstein files show trump "did something horribly wrong". My issue is with the coverup itself. Highly suspicious
You should watch this interview. the 1st 3 mins in explains everything.
Sure it could be a hoax. It could be an AI generated Deep State hit piece. She could be making it all up to get paid. Believe whatever you want.
I believe Bill Clinton raped multiple women throughout his political career. I believe Joe Biden was a pedo. I believe that people like Lindsey Graham and John Roberts are controlled via blackmail. I believe our government lies to all of us on a daily basis.
Again believe whatever you want.
But if she's credible, Trump has some serious explaining to do......
Sure it could be a hoax. It could be an AI generated Deep State hit piece. She could be making it all up to get paid. Believe whatever you want.
I believe Bill Clinton raped multiple women throughout his political career. I believe Joe Biden was a pedo. I believe that people like Lindsey Graham and John Roberts are controlled via blackmail. I believe our government lies to all of us on a daily basis.
Again believe whatever you want.
But if she's credible, Trump has some serious explaining to do......
It's a fair question. But they aren't saying "we need more time to get everything out there and make sure we are protecting the victims." They are repeatedly saying there's nothing there, everyone move on. I think that's where the "the admin is hiding/protecting something" thoughts come from.
Media reporting that the FBI has suddenly found the missing minute of the Epstein prison video. No idea what's on it at the moment.
74OA said:
Media reporting that the FBI has suddenly found the missing minute of the Epstein prison video. No idea what's on it at the moment.
It shows DJT entering the cell with one of his trademark pink Trump ties which was obviously used as a garrote.
Spoiler alert: If it shows nothing then there will be accusations it was altered. If it shows something, there will be accusations it was altered.
flown-the-coop said:74OA said:
Media reporting that the FBI has suddenly found the missing minute of the Epstein prison video. No idea what's on it at the moment.
It shows DJT entering the cell with one of his trademark pink Trump ties which was obviously used as a garrote.
Spoiler alert: If it shows nothing then there will be accusations it was altered. If it shows something, there will be accusations it was altered.
That is the reason it was withheld until they could get the alterations right.
So if 100% true and proven, why hasn't Trump been arrested? And at a minimum, why wasn't his used against him in the prior campaigns?
The Democrats tried almost everything to keep him from winning. Why not use this?
The Democrats tried almost everything to keep him from winning. Why not use this?
Virginia Giuffre's family wants to know what Donald Trump knew about Jeffrey Epstein. This isn't going away.
"It makes us ask if he was aware of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell's criminal actions, especially given his statement two years later that his good friend Jeffrey 'likes women on the younger side . . . no doubt about it,'" the family said in its statement, referencing a quote attributed to Trump in a 2002 New York Magazine profile of Epstein. The family added, "We and the public are asking for answers; survivors deserve this."
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"It makes us ask if he was aware of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell's criminal actions, especially given his statement two years later that his good friend Jeffrey 'likes women on the younger side . . . no doubt about it,'" the family said in its statement, referencing a quote attributed to Trump in a 2002 New York Magazine profile of Epstein. The family added, "We and the public are asking for answers; survivors deserve this."
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And at a minimum, why wasn't his used against him in the prior campaigns?
You keep saying this and several posters have explained why it wasn't used. If Clinton is a dirtbag, Dems wont use it and they never had any interest pursuing it as it could implicate him. It was only team Trump that brought it up incessantly over the last three years.
I had really care one way or the other, but there needs to be a better explanation from team Trump on why they determined nothing is there. And Trumps's cryptic answers and his odd selection of words only fuels more speculation.
flown-the-coop and aginlakeway, if ya'll had to put money on what you believe to be true about this Epstein story, how far would you go?
No judgement just honestly curious. And my apologies if I've missed it somewhere in the previous pages. For instance, do you just believe he was a lone pedo and he had no intelligence or blackmail operation?
No judgement just honestly curious. And my apologies if I've missed it somewhere in the previous pages. For instance, do you just believe he was a lone pedo and he had no intelligence or blackmail operation?
FIDO_Ags said:Quote:
And at a minimum, why wasn't his used against him in the prior campaigns?
You keep saying this and several posters have explained why it wasn't used. If Clinton is a dirtbag, Dems wont use it and they never had any interest pursuing it as it could implicate him. It was only team Trump that brought it up incessantly over the last three years.
I had really care one way or the other, but there needs to be a better explanation from team Trump on why they determined nothing is there. And Trumps's cryptic answers and his odd selection of words only fuels more speculation.
Understand. And I agree. I just don't think the damage to Trump will be as significant as it relates to this as posters here think.
Being 100% serious ... I literally don't know one person IRL who seems to care about this topic. Even some liberal friends.
Traffic on this thread is starting to slow. We'll see how big of a deal this is on here, especially once football season starts. I for one am about ready to make that annual pivot to football, as far as TexAgs goes ...
Gig em G said:
flown-the-coop and aginlakeway, if ya'll had to put money on what you believe to be true about this Epstein story, how far would you go?
No judgement just honestly curious. And my apologies if I've missed it somewhere in the previous pages. For instance, do you just believe he was a lone pedo and he had no intelligence or blackmail operation?
You can place bets on this stuff? Where? And why does it matter what we believe to be true?
My point all along has been that this is a big deal on this thread, but not IRL. I am not saying that it is not big deal. I am saying people IRL don't care about this as much as about 50+ other topics.
It was just a question, and no it does not matter what you believe, obviously. Again, I was just curious.
But the idea that intelligence agencies, foreign or otherwise, blackmailed elected officials by trafficking and abusing children seems like a very, very big deal that more people should actually care about. If they don't already...
But the idea that intelligence agencies, foreign or otherwise, blackmailed elected officials by trafficking and abusing children seems like a very, very big deal that more people should actually care about. If they don't already...
Gig em G said:
It was just a question, and no it does not matter what you believe, obviously. Again, I was just curious.
But the idea that intelligence agencies, foreign or otherwise, blackmailed elected officials by trafficking and abusing children seems like a very, very big deal that more people should actually care about. If they don't already...
Can you prove this to be true? Which agencies blackmailed which officials? And you can prove this?
If you can, maybe more people IRL would care about all of this.
Otherwise, why should more people care about conjecture?
81 million ballots were counted for Joe Biden and open borders, which involved sex trafficking on a scale not witnessed ever in this Country.
The only reason people care so much here is to try and smear Trump.
The only reason people care so much here is to try and smear Trump.
aginlakeway said:Gig em G said:
It was just a question, and no it does not matter what you believe, obviously. Again, I was just curious.
But the idea that intelligence agencies, foreign or otherwise, blackmailed elected officials by trafficking and abusing children seems like a very, very big deal that more people should actually care about. If they don't already...
Can you prove this to be true? Which agencies blackmailed which officials? And you can prove this?
If you can, maybe more people IRL would care about all of this.
Otherwise, why should more people care about conjecture?
This is not a court of law and we are not a jury determining guilt here. We are looking at circumstantial evidence going back many years and speculating on what the hell is going on here.
flown-the-coop said:
The only reason people care so much here is to try and smear Trump.
?????? You seriously believe the uproar about this across MAGA-land is because all those millions of people who voted for and vociferously back Trump now suddenly want to smear him?
Come on, people are into this because Trump and his senior people pushed the coverup/conspiracy angle nonstop during the campaign. If people care about it "so much", that's all on him. He convinced them.
Release the evidence and let people make up their own minds. That's what they were promised.
74OA said:flown-the-coop said:
The only reason people care so much here is to try and smear Trump.
?????? You seriously believe the uproar about this across MAGA-land is because all those millions of people who voted for and vociferously back Trump now suddenly want to smear him?
Come on, people care about this because Trump and his senior people pushed the coverup/conspiracy angle nonstop during the campaign. If people care about it "too much", that's all on him.
Release the evidence and let people make up their own minds. That's what they were promised.
OK. But 99%+ of the people in this country don't care about this. IMO. Not nearly as much as posters (like me) who are on this thread. We care about it a lot, for various reasons.
Again, I have yet to hear one person IRL being this topic up. And I hear a lot of political topics here in the Austin area.
aginlakeway said:74OA said:flown-the-coop said:
The only reason people care so much here is to try and smear Trump.
?????? You seriously believe the uproar about this across MAGA-land is because all those millions of people who voted for and vociferously back Trump now suddenly want to smear him?
Come on, people care about this because Trump and his senior people pushed the coverup/conspiracy angle nonstop during the campaign. If people care about it "too much", that's all on him.
Release the evidence and let people make up their own minds. That's what they were promised.
OK. But 99%+ of the people in this country don't care about this. IMO. Not nearly as much as posters (like me) who are on this thread. We care about it a lot, for various reasons.
Again, I have yet to hear one person IRL being this topic up. And I hear a lot of political topics here in the Austin area.
You've surveyed 99% of the people? IRL this is still red hot online, particularly on sites long known for backing Trump to the hilt and if they weren't getting millions of clicks a day from "the people", they'd have dropped this issue long ago.
74OA said:aginlakeway said:74OA said:flown-the-coop said:
The only reason people care so much here is to try and smear Trump.
?????? You seriously believe the uproar about this across MAGA-land is because all those millions of people who voted for and vociferously back Trump now suddenly want to smear him?
Come on, people care about this because Trump and his senior people pushed the coverup/conspiracy angle nonstop during the campaign. If people care about it "too much", that's all on him.
Release the evidence and let people make up their own minds. That's what they were promised.
OK. But 99%+ of the people in this country don't care about this. IMO. Not nearly as much as posters (like me) who are on this thread. We care about it a lot, for various reasons.
Again, I have yet to hear one person IRL being this topic up. And I hear a lot of political topics here in the Austin area.
You've surveyed 99% of the people? IRL this is still red hot online, particularly on sites long known for backing Trump to the hilt and if they weren't getting millions of clicks a day from "the people", they'd have dropped this issue long ago.
In your opinion, how many of the 340 million in this country really care about this? Other than serious political junkies like those on this thread? Do you really think millions care?
aginlakeway said:74OA said:aginlakeway said:74OA said:flown-the-coop said:
The only reason people care so much here is to try and smear Trump.
?????? You seriously believe the uproar about this across MAGA-land is because all those millions of people who voted for and vociferously back Trump now suddenly want to smear him?
Come on, people care about this because Trump and his senior people pushed the coverup/conspiracy angle nonstop during the campaign. If people care about it "too much", that's all on him.
Release the evidence and let people make up their own minds. That's what they were promised.
OK. But 99%+ of the people in this country don't care about this. IMO. Not nearly as much as posters (like me) who are on this thread. We care about it a lot, for various reasons.
Again, I have yet to hear one person IRL being this topic up. And I hear a lot of political topics here in the Austin area.
You've surveyed 99% of the people? IRL this is still red hot online, particularly on sites long known for backing Trump to the hilt and if they weren't getting millions of clicks a day from "the people", they'd have dropped this issue long ago.
In your opinion, how many of the 340 million in this country really care about this? Other than serious political junkies like those on this thread? Do you really think millions care?
Like your claim that few care, I have no data to back me up. But, MAGA websites are still actively discussing this issue and they wouldn't do so if they weren't still getting the heavy viewer load to justify it. You can't wish that away.
74OA said:aginlakeway said:74OA said:aginlakeway said:74OA said:flown-the-coop said:
The only reason people care so much here is to try and smear Trump.
?????? You seriously believe the uproar about this across MAGA-land is because all those millions of people who voted for and vociferously back Trump now suddenly want to smear him?
Come on, people care about this because Trump and his senior people pushed the coverup/conspiracy angle nonstop during the campaign. If people care about it "too much", that's all on him.
Release the evidence and let people make up their own minds. That's what they were promised.
OK. But 99%+ of the people in this country don't care about this. IMO. Not nearly as much as posters (like me) who are on this thread. We care about it a lot, for various reasons.
Again, I have yet to hear one person IRL being this topic up. And I hear a lot of political topics here in the Austin area.
You've surveyed 99% of the people? IRL this is still red hot online, particularly on sites long known for backing Trump to the hilt and if they weren't getting millions of clicks a day from "the people", they'd have dropped this issue long ago.
In your opinion, how many of the 340 million in this country really care about this? Other than serious political junkies like those on this thread? Do you really think millions care?
Like your claim that few care, I have no data to back me up. But, MAGA websites are still actively discussing this issue and they wouldn't do so if they weren't still getting the heavy viewer load to justify it. You can't wish that away.
MAGA websites = nothing but political junkies.
I am not trying to wish away anything. I am simply stating that political junkies care a lot more about this than most voters.
I think it's an interesting topic. But I'm in the minority. We'll see what happens next!
aginlakeway said:74OA said:
Like your claim that few care, I have no data to back me up. But, MAGA websites are still actively discussing this issue and they wouldn't do so if they weren't still getting the heavy viewer load to justify it. You can't wish that away.
MAGA websites = nothing but political junkies.
I am not trying to wish away anything. I am simply stating that political junkies care a lot more about this than most voters.
I think it's an interesting topic. But I'm in the minority. We'll see what happens next!
Those podcast bros and purported "MAGA websites" will find themselves on the outside looking in if they join the Dems in pushing this v other priorities and much, much bigger and more important subjects.
And we do not need to wish it away, it will simply go away on its own.
aginlakeway said:74OA said:aginlakeway said:74OA said:aginlakeway said:74OA said:flown-the-coop said:
The only reason people care so much here is to try and smear Trump.
?????? You seriously believe the uproar about this across MAGA-land is because all those millions of people who voted for and vociferously back Trump now suddenly want to smear him?
Come on, people care about this because Trump and his senior people pushed the coverup/conspiracy angle nonstop during the campaign. If people care about it "too much", that's all on him.
Release the evidence and let people make up their own minds. That's what they were promised.
OK. But 99%+ of the people in this country don't care about this. IMO. Not nearly as much as posters (like me) who are on this thread. We care about it a lot, for various reasons.
Again, I have yet to hear one person IRL being this topic up. And I hear a lot of political topics here in the Austin area.
You've surveyed 99% of the people? IRL this is still red hot online, particularly on sites long known for backing Trump to the hilt and if they weren't getting millions of clicks a day from "the people", they'd have dropped this issue long ago.
In your opinion, how many of the 340 million in this country really care about this? Other than serious political junkies like those on this thread? Do you really think millions care?
Like your claim that few care, I have no data to back me up. But, MAGA websites are still actively discussing this issue and they wouldn't do so if they weren't still getting the heavy viewer load to justify it. You can't wish that away.
MAGA websites = nothing but political junkies.
I am not trying to wish away anything. I am simply stating that political junkies care a lot more about this than most voters.
I think it's an interesting topic. But I'm in the minority. We'll see what happens next!
I suspect much of the outrage is directed at what is likely a long list of wealthy serial abusers who have so far all gotten away with hurting kids without so much as a slap on the wrist.
If the victims and their families continue to speak out about the damage done, like the Giuffres are doing, I suspect public anger will endure.
Anyway, that's my interest, it's not political and I don't think it's going easily away.
74OA said:aginlakeway said:74OA said:aginlakeway said:74OA said:aginlakeway said:74OA said:flown-the-coop said:
The only reason people care so much here is to try and smear Trump.
?????? You seriously believe the uproar about this across MAGA-land is because all those millions of people who voted for and vociferously back Trump now suddenly want to smear him?
Come on, people care about this because Trump and his senior people pushed the coverup/conspiracy angle nonstop during the campaign. If people care about it "too much", that's all on him.
Release the evidence and let people make up their own minds. That's what they were promised.
OK. But 99%+ of the people in this country don't care about this. IMO. Not nearly as much as posters (like me) who are on this thread. We care about it a lot, for various reasons.
Again, I have yet to hear one person IRL being this topic up. And I hear a lot of political topics here in the Austin area.
You've surveyed 99% of the people? IRL this is still red hot online, particularly on sites long known for backing Trump to the hilt and if they weren't getting millions of clicks a day from "the people", they'd have dropped this issue long ago.
In your opinion, how many of the 340 million in this country really care about this? Other than serious political junkies like those on this thread? Do you really think millions care?
Like your claim that few care, I have no data to back me up. But, MAGA websites are still actively discussing this issue and they wouldn't do so if they weren't still getting the heavy viewer load to justify it. You can't wish that away.
MAGA websites = nothing but political junkies.
I am not trying to wish away anything. I am simply stating that political junkies care a lot more about this than most voters.
I think it's an interesting topic. But I'm in the minority. We'll see what happens next!
I suspect much of the outrage is directed at what is likely a long list of wealthy serial abusers who have so far all gotten away with hurting kids without so much as a slap on the wrist.
If the victims and their families continue to speak out about the damage done, like the Giuffres are doing, I suspect public anger will endure.
Anyway, that's my interest, it's not political and I don't think it's going easily away.
Worked in the oil industry all my life and its a conservative group generally and I was aware of some non conventional behavior although to my knowledge no minors involved. What was that.... how about building a S&M room into your home with theater seating. Also personally knew someone who went to one of the Caribbean "fantasy islands", not Epstein's as far as I can determine. Personally offered the opportunity to go for an evening of "dinner and whatever follows" when I worked internationally(I declined). These places do exist for a wealthy and powerful clientele. As my son so eloquently said about the whole topic " sometimes great wealth allows peoples fantasy desires to become reality without consequences".
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