FWTXAg said:
Texas Aggie Coffeezilla has done a great job covering this debacle on his various channels as well.
flown-the-coop said:FWTXAg said:
Texas Aggie Coffeezilla has done a great job covering this debacle on his various channels as well.
Love seeing a fellow aggie embarrass himself regurgitating leftist posts from f16 and reddit.
Thanks for wasting 6 minutes of my life. If I was a lawyer, you would owe me for 0.10 of an hour.
EX TEXASEX said:
Epstein was indeed a FBI asset and was being protected by FBI.
FWTXAg said:We fixed the keg said:Look Out Below said:Quote:
So let me see if I got this right. You guys are saying that Trump is a pedo and that he is covering up his pedo connections with Epstein by not releasing the files fully.
This is a special sort of stupid!!
It's not' you guys'. It's a former Trump insider.
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"Overnight, I received several phone calls from trusted sourcespeople inside the roomwarning me about today's meeting between Trump's inner circle," Parnas added. "Trump's hierarchy is assembling in secret at the residence of Vice President J.D. Vance in Washington, D.C. Not for a policy summit. Not to serve the American people. Nothis is about power, protection, and the ultimate erasure of Donald Trump's involvement in one of the darkest scandals in modern history: Jeffrey Epstein."
So, tell me again why the left had all of the power to do this for 4 years, especially in the final months leading up to the election, and did nothing with the evidence? The same dems who went to great lengths to fabricate Russian Gate, Impeachment 1, Impeachment 2, the raid, the lawfare, etc. but when handed a "smoking gun" didn't run to the MSM with the info?
Even if Chuck Shumer was somewhere in those records dressing in drag on the island, the dems would have leaked every damn thing pointing to Trump to win in 2024 and start their own 'cleanup.'
This is the kind of crap that makes me sure we will never have all of the information and even if somehow we did, we wouldn't be able to trust it was everything.
Here's a hint for you;
The people who pay these politicians salaries are on the list on both sides, in what capacity, we will probably never know. Chuck Schumer, Donald Trump, Nancy Pelosi, and on an on are PAID to do what they do and talk about what they talk about by billionaire "donors."
These politicians, every single one of them, are paid ACTORS. They're paid very well (enough to leave office with $100+ Millions of Net Worth) obviously, but they still work for their employers. Their employers are not the electorate. That's why none of this will ever be released, the people who pay the bills have let everyone know that they're not coming out, so they won't be.
It is not "Dems" vs. "Republicans". They are the exact same thing, freaking actors designed to keep you watching the left hand while the owners of our country (The Billionares) have their right hand in our pockets. That's historical and modern government for you.
TheCurl84 said:
Just checking back in, in case I missed it. Bondi release the files yet?
J. Walter Weatherman said:
Nothing says "this isn't a big deal everyone move on" like a scheduled dinner meeting for how to tell everyone this isn't a big deal everyone move on.Virginia Giuffre's siblings react to the White House-DOJ "strategy session" on Epstein. Missing from the group: survivors.
— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) August 6, 2025
"Their voices must be heard, above all."
They call for survivor testimony in Congress.
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🚨 BREAKING: Obama judge Paul Engelmayer has just DENIED the DOJ’s request to unseal the grand jury materials in Ghislaine Maxwell’s case
— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) August 11, 2025
As predicted… pic.twitter.com/eWpk82plUZ
Judge Engelmeyer is particularly brutal here: "The one colorable argument under that doctrine for unsealing in this case, in fact, is that doing so would expose as disingenuous the Government’s public explanations for moving to unseal."
— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) August 11, 2025
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Im Gipper said:
People need to move on.
f1ghtintexasaggie said:Im Gipper said:
People need to move on.
Yeah, **** that. People need to remember that Trump and co. are just as despicable liars as the progressive Dems that are slammed on here repeatedly (and for good reason).
f1ghtintexasaggie said:Im Gipper said:
People need to move on.
Yeah, **** that. People need to remember that Trump and co. are just as despicable liars as the progressive Dems that are slammed on here repeatedly (and for good reason).
And because Orange Man bad. If Orange Man wants something, the courts will try and deny it to him. Because Orange Man bad.AggieKatie2 said:
We won't unseal this because most of it is already public information…….wut?!?!
f1ghtintexasaggie said:Im Gipper said:
People need to move on.
Yeah, **** that. People need to remember that Trump and co. are just as despicable liars as the progressive Dems that are slammed on here repeatedly (and for good reason).
Rapier108 said:
It is rare for grand jury testimony to be unsealed so the denial was not a surprise to pretty much every legal expert.
This is not because of "TDS" or "Orange man bad."
The real surprise would be if they did it.
I know the Epsteiners want access to it, hoping to either burn some Democrats, or burn Trump, but it was simply not going to happen. Courts follow precedent, and the very long established precedent is to not release grand jury material other than for very specific reasons, and even then, it is usually only what is absolutely necessary.
Rapier108 said:
It is rare for grand jury testimony to be unsealed so the denial was not a surprise to pretty much every legal expert.
This is not because of "TDS" or "Orange man bad."
The real surprise would be if they did it.
I know the Epsteiners want access to it, hoping to either burn some Democrats, or burn Trump, but it was simply not going to happen. Courts follow precedent, and the very long established precedent is to not release grand jury material other than for very specific reasons, and even then, it is usually only what is absolutely necessary.
aggiehawg said:
Public interest as the reason to unseal grand jury materials is the wrong reason. They can be unsealed for a separate criminal matter. That is allowed under the federal rules of procedure.
However, Halperin just touched on this and he said the Maxwell grand jury only heard from law enforcement and none of the victims. So not sure what the value would be were they to be unsealed.
nortex97 said:f1ghtintexasaggie said:Im Gipper said:
People need to move on.
Yeah, **** that. People need to remember that Trump and co. are just as despicable liars as the progressive Dems that are slammed on here repeatedly (and for good reason).
How upset are you with this Obama judge?
jrdaustin said:aggiehawg said:
Public interest as the reason to unseal grand jury materials is the wrong reason. They can be unsealed for a separate criminal matter. That is allowed under the federal rules of procedure.
However, Halperin just touched on this and he said the Maxwell grand jury only heard from law enforcement and none of the victims. So not sure what the value would be were they to be unsealed.
Does a grand jury normally hear witness testimony? I didn't think it was that much out of the norm for a GJ to hear from LEO's only along with just enough evidence to create probable cause for an indictment.
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Does a grand jury normally hear witness testimony? I didn't think it was that much out of the norm for a GJ to hear from LEO's only along with just enough evidence to create probable cause for an indictment.
vance in a fox interview over the weekend:aggiegolfer2012 said:
How does Vance confirm there will be more information when they told us there was no more information?
okay then why all the secrecy and deflection from the trump admin? he has loyalists installed at the top of all the intelligence agencies, there's no excuses anymore. is vance saying their strategy now is to protect the dem billionaires and politicians who went to the island?Quote:
The Democrats have tried to make this Epstein thing about anything but the fact that democrat billionaires and democrat political leaders went to Epstein Island all the time. Who knows what they did.
Old McDonald said:aggiegolfer2012 said:
How does Vance confirm there will be more information when they told us there was no more information?
vance in a fox interview over the weekend:Quote:
The Democrats have tried to make this Epstein thing about anything but the fact that democrat billionaires and democrat political leaders went to Epstein Island all the time. Who knows what they did.
okay then why all the secrecy and deflection from the trump admin? he has loyalists installed at the top of all the intelligence agencies, there's no excuses anymore. is vance saying their strategy now is to protect the dem billionaires and politicians who went to the island?
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"I laugh at the Democrats who are now all of a sudden so interested in the Epstein files. For four years Joe Biden and the Democrats did absolutely nothing about this story."
Vance also said, without elaborating: "Democrat billionaires and Democrat political leaders went to Epstein island all the time. Who knows what they did."
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"What the president has said very clearly, because we've had other meetings about that, is that he wants us to be fully transparent and he wants the credible information out there. So we're working to compile the thousands and thousands of documents that are out there for full transparency."
On September 3rd at 10:30am ET, @RepRoKhanna and I will be hosting a press conference at the Capitol joined by survivors of Epstein and Maxwell's abuse — several of whom will be speaking out for the first time.
— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) August 11, 2025
The survivors deserve justice and Americans deserve transparency. pic.twitter.com/JuoAJhWla6
