DOJ: Epstein killed himself, no client list

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In reply to will25u • 2:46p, 8/22/25
will25u said:


The Trump haters won't believe this.
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In reply to Im Gipper • 2:46p, 8/22/25
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Crazy that some out there still think there's a "list" out there.


Some of those crazy people may be here on TexAgs.
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2:47p, 8/22/25
Bill Clinton is in the clear as well?
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3:03p, 8/22/25
Trump DOJ Delivers Thousands of Epstein Documents to Oversight Committee
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/08/just-trump-doj-delivers-thousands-epstein-documents-oversight/
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In reply to Bulldog73 • 3:08p, 8/22/25
Bulldog73 said:
Trump DOJ Delivers Thousands of Epstein Documents to Oversight Committee
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/08/just-trump-doj-delivers-thousands-epstein-documents-oversight/


Why aren't the American people allowed to see this stuff directly?
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In reply to Queso1 • 3:15p, 8/22/25
Queso1 said:
Bulldog73 said:
Trump DOJ Delivers Thousands of Epstein Documents to Oversight Committee
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/08/just-trump-doj-delivers-thousands-epstein-documents-oversight/


Why aren't the American people allowed to see this stuff directly?

Comer needs to give it a good hillbilly looksie before you can see it.
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3:54p, 8/22/25
I wonder what a convicted pedo considers "inappropriate."

For Maxwell, the purpose of this interview was two-fold:
1) Try to get a pardon or commutation of her sentence from Trump; and
2) Avoid having to testify before Congress under the penalty of perjury. This why she states that there is no list and that Clinton has never been to the island (yeah, right). If she is released, she does not want to back to the pokey for perjury for lying to Congress. Remember, she had offered to testify before Congress with the condition that she could not be charged for perjury. Congress rejected this condition.

Given her motivations and her past perjurious statements (which the DOJ did not pursue because she was already convicted for trafficking), anything she says is not credible unless backed by corroborating evidence.

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In reply to Joseydog • 3:59p, 8/22/25
Joseydog said:
I wonder what a convicted pedo considers "inappropriate."

For Maxwell, the purpose of this interview was two-fold:
1) Try to get a pardon or commutation of her sentence from Trump; and
2) Avoid having to testify before Congress under the penalty of perjury. This why she states that there is no list and that Clinton has never been to the island (yeah, right). If she is released, she does not want to back to the pokey for perjury for lying to Congress. Remember, she had offered to testify before Congress with the condition that she could not be charged for perjury. Congress rejected this condition.

Given her motivations and her past perjurious statements (which the DOJ did not pursue because she was already convicted for trafficking), anything she says is not credible unless backed by corroborating evidence.



So she said Trump didn't do anything wrong. What kind of evidence do you want to see to corroborate that?
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In reply to Charpie • 4:15p, 8/22/25
Charpie said:
Bill Clinton is in the clear as well?

Well…not exactly.

She (and Epstein) was clearly a LOT more involved with the Clintons vs. Trump. The Clinton Global Initiative might in fact be at the root of a lot of the trafficking and money laundering/wire fraud/prostitution around which Epstein was tightly involved.
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In reply to aginlakeway • 4:27p, 8/22/25
aginlakeway said:
Joseydog said:
I wonder what a convicted pedo considers "inappropriate."

For Maxwell, the purpose of this interview was two-fold:
1) Try to get a pardon or commutation of her sentence from Trump; and
2) Avoid having to testify before Congress under the penalty of perjury. This why she states that there is no list and that Clinton has never been to the island (yeah, right). If she is released, she does not want to back to the pokey for perjury for lying to Congress. Remember, she had offered to testify before Congress with the condition that she could not be charged for perjury. Congress rejected this condition.

Given her motivations and her past perjurious statements (which the DOJ did not pursue because she was already convicted for trafficking), anything she says is not credible unless backed by corroborating evidence.



So she said Trump didn't do anything wrong. What kind of evidence do you want to see to corroborate that?


Release the files with only victims' names redacted. Photos and videos that do not contain sexual acts should blur out the victims' faces/bodies. Withhold videos and photos showing sexual acts. Produce a log describing what documents/photos/videos were not disclosed and why.

In fact, this should be done without any type of deal to Maxwell. That it appears that Trump is considering striking a deal with Maxwell only makes him look guilty. There should never be any deal with Maxwell.
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In reply to Joseydog • 4:38p, 8/22/25
Joseydog said:
aginlakeway said:
Joseydog said:
I wonder what a convicted pedo considers "inappropriate."

For Maxwell, the purpose of this interview was two-fold:
1) Try to get a pardon or commutation of her sentence from Trump; and
2) Avoid having to testify before Congress under the penalty of perjury. This why she states that there is no list and that Clinton has never been to the island (yeah, right). If she is released, she does not want to back to the pokey for perjury for lying to Congress. Remember, she had offered to testify before Congress with the condition that she could not be charged for perjury. Congress rejected this condition.

Given her motivations and her past perjurious statements (which the DOJ did not pursue because she was already convicted for trafficking), anything she says is not credible unless backed by corroborating evidence.



So she said Trump didn't do anything wrong. What kind of evidence do you want to see to corroborate that?


Release the files with only victims' names redacted. Photos and videos that do not contain sexual acts should blur out the victims' faces/bodies. Withhold videos and photos showing sexual acts. Produce a log describing what documents/photos/videos were not disclosed and why.

In fact, this should be done without any type of deal to Maxwell. That it appears that Trump is considering striking a deal with Maxwell only makes him look guilty. There should never be any deal with Maxwell.

And you would still clamor that "its not enough" or "surely they held back files" and "you know Bondi covered for Trump".

Can you admit that you will hold Trump guilty or at least in doubt no matter what?

Cause admitting the problem is your first step to dealing with it and moving on.
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In reply to Joseydog • 4:42p, 8/22/25
Joseydog said:
aginlakeway said:
Joseydog said:
I wonder what a convicted pedo considers "inappropriate."

For Maxwell, the purpose of this interview was two-fold:
1) Try to get a pardon or commutation of her sentence from Trump; and
2) Avoid having to testify before Congress under the penalty of perjury. This why she states that there is no list and that Clinton has never been to the island (yeah, right). If she is released, she does not want to back to the pokey for perjury for lying to Congress. Remember, she had offered to testify before Congress with the condition that she could not be charged for perjury. Congress rejected this condition.

Given her motivations and her past perjurious statements (which the DOJ did not pursue because she was already convicted for trafficking), anything she says is not credible unless backed by corroborating evidence.



So she said Trump didn't do anything wrong. What kind of evidence do you want to see to corroborate that?


Release the files with only victims' names redacted. Photos and videos that do not contain sexual acts should blur out the victims' faces/bodies. Withhold videos and photos showing sexual acts. Produce a log describing what documents/photos/videos were not disclosed and why.

In fact, this should be done without any type of deal to Maxwell. That it appears that Trump is considering striking a deal with Maxwell only makes him look guilty. There should never be any deal with Maxwell.


So you want Trump proven innocent by releasing everything? OK. We'll see if that happens.
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4:47p, 8/22/25
Given how this Administration has handled this matter, I am not naive enough to believe they will provide full disclosure.
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In reply to Joseydog • 5:10p, 8/22/25
Joseydog said:
Given how this Administration has handled this matter, I am not naive enough to believe they will provide full disclosure.


They may have downplayed it but they are handling it.
The last guy, not so much.
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In reply to Joseydog • 5:41p, 8/22/25
Joseydog said:
Given how this Administration has handled this matter, I am not naive enough to believe they will provide full disclosure.


I have a feeling you are set in your beliefs regardless of what is disclosed.

Regardless, this entire story is headed to the back page ...
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In reply to aginlakeway • 5:44p, 8/22/25
aginlakeway said:
Joseydog said:
Given how this Administration has handled this matter, I am not naive enough to believe they will provide full disclosure.


I have a feeling you are set in your beliefs regardless of what is disclosed.

Regardless, this entire story is headed to the back page ...


Now that is something to celebrate! Hooray for our Shadow Government because they said our favorite actor (Trump) was innocent, like we didn't already know that. Yippee!!
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In reply to FWTXAg • 5:59p, 8/22/25
FWTXAg said:
aginlakeway said:
Joseydog said:
Given how this Administration has handled this matter, I am not naive enough to believe they will provide full disclosure.


I have a feeling you are set in your beliefs regardless of what is disclosed.

Regardless, this entire story is headed to the back page ...


Now that is something to celebrate! Hooray for our Shadow Government because they said our favorite actor (Trump) was innocent, like we didn't already know that. Yippee!!


Nothing to celebrate. Just pointing out that nothing points to Trump doing anything wrong, so the motive for many covering the story dies ...
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In reply to Joseydog • 6:06p, 8/22/25
Joseydog said:
Given how this Administration has handled this matter, I am not naive enough to believe they will provide full disclosure.


You mean, how they have actually done something…..

It is such an absolute joke seeing the hypocrisy of the left and the dems on so many topics. But this one takes the cake. The dems sat and did absolutely nothing to uncover or investigate Epstein. And we see Trump and his admin actually doing something here, yet the dems/libs still cry and foul. Just flat out insane. The dims are pure hypocrites. They are liars and absolute jokes. Trump has broken them completely. And each of his massive wins over just the last 7 months absolutely destroy them even more.
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In reply to Joseydog • 6:50p, 8/22/25
Joseydog said:
aginlakeway said:
Joseydog said:
I wonder what a convicted pedo considers "inappropriate."

For Maxwell, the purpose of this interview was two-fold:
1) Try to get a pardon or commutation of her sentence from Trump; and
2) Avoid having to testify before Congress under the penalty of perjury. This why she states that there is no list and that Clinton has never been to the island (yeah, right). If she is released, she does not want to back to the pokey for perjury for lying to Congress. Remember, she had offered to testify before Congress with the condition that she could not be charged for perjury. Congress rejected this condition.

Given her motivations and her past perjurious statements (which the DOJ did not pursue because she was already convicted for trafficking), anything she says is not credible unless backed by corroborating evidence.



So she said Trump didn't do anything wrong. What kind of evidence do you want to see to corroborate that?


Release the files with only victims' names redacted. Photos and videos that do not contain sexual acts should blur out the victims' faces/bodies. Withhold videos and photos showing sexual acts. Produce a log describing what documents/photos/videos were not disclosed and why.

In fact, this should be done without any type of deal to Maxwell. That it appears that Trump is considering striking a deal with Maxwell only makes him look guilty. There should never be any deal with Maxwell.


Good grief.

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7:23p, 8/22/25
I wish so badly we could put to a vote whether we believe Trump ever violated sexual assault laws and/or underage sexual contact laws. With our names.

I'd love to see real names behind all this goal post moving defense of him. He did it. They scrubbed it. It took a couple months and he has his "credible" source now.

People who don't believe that are only brave enough to defend him on message boards behind a username. They desperately don't want their team to lose. Shame.
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In reply to Queso1 • 7:25p, 8/22/25
Queso1 said:
Bulldog73 said:
Trump DOJ Delivers Thousands of Epstein Documents to Oversight Committee
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/08/just-trump-doj-delivers-thousands-epstein-documents-oversight/


Why aren't the American people allowed to see this stuff directly?


Because then this couldn't be made a partisan issue and all of us peasants would have our eyes and pitchforks pointed at our two tiered justice system and the ruling class. We can't have that! Welcome to the USA.
And this thread has devolved into slinging feces at our fellow peasants wearing different colored shirts.
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In reply to Danimal • 7:27p, 8/22/25
Danimal said:
I wish so badly we could put to a vote whether we believe Trump ever violated sexual assault laws and/or underage sexual contact laws. With our names.

I'd love to see real names behind all this goal post moving defense of him. He did it. They scrubbed it. It took a couple months and he has his "credible" source now.

People who don't believe that are only brave enough to defend him on message boards behind a username. They desperately don't want their team to lose. Shame.


What did he do? And how do you know what he did? And if he did it, why didn't it come out while Democrats were in charge of the files?

IMO, this comes out years ago IF Trump did anything wrong.

Unsure why you're interested in real names.
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In reply to Danimal • 8:03p, 8/22/25
Danimal said:


I'd love to see real names behind all this goal post moving defense of him. He did it. They scrubbed it. It took a couple months and he has his "credible" source now.


Let me get this straight.

After the Russian collusion hoax…
After eight separate lawsuits/prosecutions…
After phony convictions on 34 made-up felonies…
And after trying twice to assassinate him, failing both times…
After all that, they had these files for FOUR YEARS. Complete control. And for the last few months they could have used it against him in the election…

But they didn't. The Democrats just kept this all to themselves.

Riiiiigghhhht
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8:09p, 8/22/25
Money distorts a lot of things. Don't be naive. He did it. He has the money to clean it up. End of story.

Yall really think the pics of him and the verified comments he's made about epstein are fake? This is ludicrous.
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8:13p, 8/22/25
you make the deal. In the end you get off.
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In reply to aginlakeway • 8:21p, 8/22/25
aginlakeway said:
Joseydog said:
Given how this Administration has handled this matter, I am not naive enough to believe they will provide full disclosure.


I have a feeling you are set in your beliefs regardless of what is disclosed.

Regardless, this entire story is headed to the back page ...


Whatever, just like it was heading to the back page when the bogus prison video was released. This thing is just getting started.
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In reply to Danimal • 8:22p, 8/22/25
Danimal said:
Money distorts a lot of things. Don't be naive. He did it. He has the money to clean it up. End of story.

Yall really think the pics of him and the verified comments he's made about epstein are fake? This is ludicrous.


What did he do? Please be specific.
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 8:57p, 8/22/25
flown-the-coop said:
And you would still clamor that "it's not enough" or "surely they held back files" and "you know Bondi covered for Trump".

Can you admit that you will hold Trump guilty or at least in doubt no matter what?

Cause admitting the problem is your first step to dealing with it and moving on.

I absolutely am open to evidence that Trump is not guilty.

True story time: A lady I knew was a flight attendant for a major airline. In the late 2000s, she was working in first class where Trump was a passenger. She described him as someone who had that amorphous "it factor" aura and was super charming. She was an attractive lady. Not in the same stratosphere as Melania, but attractive nonetheless. She was in her early 40s and looked her age. Trump was super flirty with her and gave her his business card. He said to her: if you are ever in NYC and want to party, give me a call. She told me this right after it happened. I advised her (in much more colorful terms) not to call him. He was married to Melania and only interested in one thing.*

* As I know y'all are way more interested in the end of this saga than the politics, here is the ending: The next time she was in NYC, she called the number on the card. Trump's secretary answered and the lady hung up.

So, the fact that Trump hit on this lady who was clearly middle aged has always made me skeptical of claims that Trump was into little girls.

I have always believed that Epstein purposely ingratiated himself into the wealthy elite for blackmail purposes. Trump was a part of that crowd that Epstein wanted to be in and that is why they became friends. So I have dismissed allegations of Trump's involved in Epstein's nefarious actions.

Fast forward to his current Administration: Trump and his administration have taken actions that make him look super guilty. I am still not convinced he diddled young girls, but I am convinced that there is information in those files about Trump that he does not want released.
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In reply to Joseydog • 9:00p, 8/22/25
Did her last name rhyme with Daisy bored by chance?
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In reply to Joseydog • 9:01p, 8/22/25
So you're seeking proof that he's not guilty?

Near zero chance Trump did anything wrong here. It would have come out a long time ago. IMO. But I don't have inside info like some posters here apparently do.

Posters here are claiming knowledge of guilt that even the biggest Trump haters in the media don't have. Why didn't these posters send law enforcement this information years ago?
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In reply to aginlakeway • 9:07p, 8/22/25
aginlakeway said:
So you're seeking proof that he's not guilty?

Near zero chance Trump did anything wrong here. It would have come out a long time ago. IMO. But I don't have inside info like some posters here apparently do.

If Trump did not do anything wrong, then why would his Administration ever make any deals with Maxwell. It simply belies common sense.
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In reply to Joseydog • 9:09p, 8/22/25
Joseydog said:
aginlakeway said:
So you're seeking proof that he's not guilty?

Near zero chance Trump did anything wrong here. It would have come out a long time ago. IMO. But I don't have inside info like some posters here apparently do.

If Trump did not do anything wrong, then why would his Administration ever make any deals with Maxwell. It simply belies common sense.


What deal did the administration make with Maxwell?

Again, you're trying to prove innocence.

Good luck with that.
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In reply to Heineken-Ashi • 9:10p, 8/22/25
Heineken-Ashi said:
Did her last name rhyme with Daisy bored by chance?

I don't remember her name, but even if I did, I would never disclose her name on a public forum. All I will say is that we played (beer league) short-field soccer together.
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In reply to aginlakeway • 9:11p, 8/22/25
aginlakeway said:
Joseydog said:
aginlakeway said:
So you're seeking proof that he's not guilty?

Near zero chance Trump did anything wrong here. It would have come out a long time ago. IMO. But I don't have inside info like some posters here apparently do.

If Trump did not do anything wrong, then why would his Administration ever make any deals with Maxwell. It simply belies common sense.


What deal did the administration make with Maxwell?

Again, you're trying to prove innocence.

Good luck with that.

Explain to me why she was transfer prisons if there was no deal made.
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In reply to Joseydog • 9:17p, 8/22/25
Joseydog said:
aginlakeway said:
Joseydog said:
aginlakeway said:
So you're seeking proof that he's not guilty?

Near zero chance Trump did anything wrong here. It would have come out a long time ago. IMO. But I don't have inside info like some posters here apparently do.

If Trump did not do anything wrong, then why would his Administration ever make any deals with Maxwell. It simply belies common sense.


What deal did the administration make with Maxwell?

Again, you're trying to prove innocence.

Good luck with that.

Explain to me why she was transfer prisons if there was no deal made.


No idea. You're the one who said a deal was made. I assumed you had knowledge of a deal.
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