DOJ: Epstein killed himself, no client list

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flown-the-coop
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

flown-the-coop said:

aginlakeway said:

shiftyandquick said:

So it's a matter of word-smithing the suppression of this information, and you are 100% on-board.

I like that people are putting themselves on the record.


Why don't you put on the record what you do IRL to assist with abused women, other than criticizing others on a message board who actually are doing something to help.

They get on TexAgs and bash trump and other posters as pedos for supposedly suppressing information when they are the only ones who ever called for info to be released.


Can you point to where someone called Trump and/or other posters pedos?

About 10 or so posts up.

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Trump administration using all available pressure to stop Republicans from signing the Massie discharge petition.

While at the same time claiming that they have nothing to hide.

LOL.

MAGA people here: never again can you claim that you are against sexual abuse of children. Never again can you claim that you are "draining the swamp." You are the people that support the abusers.

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PaulsBunions said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

flown-the-coop said:

aginlakeway said:

shiftyandquick said:

So it's a matter of word-smithing the suppression of this information, and you are 100% on-board.

I like that people are putting themselves on the record.


Why don't you put on the record what you do IRL to assist with abused women, other than criticizing others on a message board who actually are doing something to help.

They get on TexAgs and bash trump and other posters as pedos for supposedly suppressing information when they are the only ones who ever called for info to be released.


Can you point to where someone called Trump and/or other posters pedos?


Tbh I'm fairly certain the consensus here is that Trump isn't implicated at all since the Biden admin would've released it if he was.

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shiftyandquick said:
Trump administration using all available pressure to stop Republicans from signing the Massie discharge petition.

While at the same time claiming that they have nothing to hide.

LOL.

MAGA people here: never again can you claim that you are against sexual abuse of children. Never again can you claim that you are "draining the swamp." You are the people that support the abusers.

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flown-the-coop said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

flown-the-coop said:

aginlakeway said:

shiftyandquick said:

So it's a matter of word-smithing the suppression of this information, and you are 100% on-board.

I like that people are putting themselves on the record.


Why don't you put on the record what you do IRL to assist with abused women, other than criticizing others on a message board who actually are doing something to help.

They get on TexAgs and bash trump and other posters as pedos for supposedly suppressing information when they are the only ones who ever called for info to be released.


Can you point to where someone called Trump and/or other posters pedos?

About 10 or so posts up.

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shiftyandquick said:
Trump administration using all available pressure to stop Republicans from signing the Massie discharge petition.

While at the same time claiming that they have nothing to hide.

LOL.

MAGA people here: never again can you claim that you are against sexual abuse of children. Never again can you claim that you are "draining the swamp." You are the people that support the abusers.




That seems to be an accusation of being an apologist for pedophilia instead of being a pedophile. Also I don't think one poster really represents the consensus here
flown-the-coop
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PaulsBunions said:

flown-the-coop said:

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MAGA people here: never again can you claim that you are against sexual abuse of children. Never again can you claim that you are "draining the swamp." You are the people that support the abusers.




That seems to be an accusation of being an apologist for pedophilia instead of being a pedophile. Also I don't think one poster really represents the consensus here

Then call him out on it if you disagree.

But being accused of protecting / apologizing for a pedo is just as bad as being one. And I have never seen anyone protecting or apologizing for one on here, unless in defense of Hunter and Joe Biden.
PaulsBunions
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Yeah I disagree, I don't believe voting for and supporting a politician means you endorse every one of their actions. I don't think Trump is a pedo apologist either but for some reason he decided to join the "cover it up" side of Washington. Probably because releasing the files would hurt the Trump agenda politically.
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Anyone trying to prevent the list from being released or calling it a hoax is complicit in protecting the pedophilic elites they claim to hate
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Colonel Kurtz said:

Anyone trying to prevent the list from being released or calling it a hoax is complicit in protecting the pedophilic elites they claim to hate

Good think no one is preventing the list from being released and no one is calling it a hoax.

Trump is calling the Dems (including Massie) out on saying Trump admin is covering up for Epstein to protect Rs and Trump from embarrassment is indeed a hoax at worst, distraction at best. Its not helpful but people focused on Russian pee tapes and confidential files hidden amongst Melania's crotchless panty collection.

So... try again?
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Colonel Kurtz said:

Anyone trying to prevent the list from being released or calling it a hoax is complicit in protecting the pedophilic elites they claim to hate


OK. But do you know what Trump is calling a hoax? Because it's not the "list" or release of the "list."
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flown-the-coop said:

Colonel Kurtz said:

Anyone trying to prevent the list from being released or calling it a hoax is complicit in protecting the pedophilic elites they claim to hate

Good think no one is preventing the list from being released and no one is calling it a hoax.

Trump is calling the Dems (including Massie) out on saying Trump admin is covering up for Epstein to protect Rs and Trump from embarrassment is indeed a hoax at worst, distraction at best. Its not helpful but people focused on Russian pee tapes and confidential files hidden amongst Melania's crotchless panty collection.

So... try again?


Here is Trump on Truth Social calling this a Democrat hoax:



Edited because second half is cut off:


J. Walter Weatherman
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flown-the-coop said:

PaulsBunions said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

flown-the-coop said:

aginlakeway said:

shiftyandquick said:

So it's a matter of word-smithing the suppression of this information, and you are 100% on-board.

I like that people are putting themselves on the record.


Why don't you put on the record what you do IRL to assist with abused women, other than criticizing others on a message board who actually are doing something to help.

They get on TexAgs and bash trump and other posters as pedos for supposedly suppressing information when they are the only ones who ever called for info to be released.


Can you point to where someone called Trump and/or other posters pedos?


Tbh I'm fairly certain the consensus here is that Trump isn't implicated at all since the Biden admin would've released it if he was.

Quote:

shiftyandquick said:
Trump administration using all available pressure to stop Republicans from signing the Massie discharge petition.

While at the same time claiming that they have nothing to hide.

LOL.

MAGA people here: never again can you claim that you are against sexual abuse of children. Never again can you claim that you are "draining the swamp." You are the people that support the abusers.




"They" implied there was a bunch of posters on here calling Trump and his supporters on this issue pedos. Looks like there's one (sort of) and then everyone else just disagrees with letting Trump off the hook for calling it a hoax and trying to get everyone to move on for some reason.

And while both are terrible, there's a massive difference in accusing someone of molesting children and accusing them of tacitly supporting it.
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Perhaps you just didn't read the post?

Quote:

...The Dems don't care about the victims, as proven by the fact that they never did before. This is merely another Democrat HOAX, just like Russia, Russia, Russia, and all of the others, in order to deflect and distract from the great success of a Republican President, and the record setting failure of the previous Administration, and the Democrat Party. The Department of Justice has done its job, they have given everything requested of them. It's time to end the Democrat Epstein Hoax,

Seems he is pretty specific calling the Dems making an issue out of this at this time being the hoax.

Has Trump ever said Epstein and Maxwell were good people and he was ready to welcome them back to M-A-L? Has he disparaged the victims? If I recall, he was the only one or one of the only ones to sit down willingly to an interview on Epstein (cannot remember if it was investigators or lawyers).

So if you actually think Trump is saying that Epstein never ran a sex trafficking operation, then you may want to go back through this thread and others on the subject.
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J. Walter Weatherman said:


"They" implied there was a bunch of posters on here calling Trump and his supporters on this issue pedos. Looks like there's one (sort of) and then everyone else just disagrees with letting Trump off the hook for calling it a hoax and trying to get everyone to move on for some reason.

And while both are terrible, there's a massive difference in accusing someone of molesting children and accusing them of tacitly supporting it.

There is ZERO difference, Turn a blind eye to it and see where it lands you in Texas. Maybe you have an interest in night classes at Sam Houston during your time at the state pen.

So no, there is no difference and folks should and do take the same offense.

But if defending that statement by the other poster makes you feel better, give him a blue star and move on.

Talk about goaltending...
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flown-the-coop said:

Tea Party said:

It's only front page news because the Trump admin, and his cult like followers, are doing everything in their power to prevent this issue from getting released and wrapped up. They, and no offense but your "move on" posts", are in fact playing it down.

If they just release all of the information, then we can quickly move onto those important issues we all agree with. It's their insistance to move on from this issue that is making some want it resolved more than before.

Think we are done here. The pro Trump cult is kitten play compared to the incurable TDS many suffer from. Hopefully one day you find relief for what ails you.

Move on or don't. Its not an insistence you move on, just a recommendation to help with your TDS and National Enquirer fetishes.

Sorry the truth hurts, and am open to continuing the conversation if you start to see the other side without the blinders on. I see your side, and have told you how it looks cult like and appears to be disingenuous saying you want the full unredacted release when you insist on people moving on and calling this a tabloid issue.

And hilarious saying I have TDS when I was one of the most vocal in favor of Trump in the 2016 and 2024 primaries over Cruz and DeSantis. The difference is I call him out on the flip flopping and don't let it slide when he throws up a bunch of red flags trying to hide a big issue under the rug when a quick unredacted release gets it over with so we can all move on AFTER we get transparency.
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J. Walter Weatherman
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flown-the-coop said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:


"They" implied there was a bunch of posters on here calling Trump and his supporters on this issue pedos. Looks like there's one (sort of) and then everyone else just disagrees with letting Trump off the hook for calling it a hoax and trying to get everyone to move on for some reason.

And while both are terrible, there's a massive difference in accusing someone of molesting children and accusing them of tacitly supporting it.

There is ZERO difference, Turn a blind eye to it and see where it lands you in Texas. Maybe you have an interest in night classes at Sam Houston during your time at the state pen.

So no, there is no difference and folks should and do take the same offense.

But if defending that statement by the other poster makes you feel better, give him a blue star and move on.

Talk about goaltending...


Yea sorry, words matter and no one called anyone a pedo. Thanks for confirming you were strawmanning as usual.
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flown-the-coop said:

Perhaps you just didn't read the post?

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...The Dems don't care about the victims, as proven by the fact that they never did before. This is merely another Democrat HOAX, just like Russia, Russia, Russia, and all of the others, in order to deflect and distract from the great success of a Republican President, and the record setting failure of the previous Administration, and the Democrat Party. The Department of Justice has done its job, they have given everything requested of them. It's time to end the Democrat Epstein Hoax,

Seems he is pretty specific calling the Dems making an issue out of this at this time being the hoax.

Has Trump ever said Epstein and Maxwell were good people and he was ready to welcome them back to M-A-L? Has he disparaged the victims? If I recall, he was the only one or one of the only ones to sit down willingly to an interview on Epstein (cannot remember if it was investigators or lawyers).

So if you actually think Trump is saying that Epstein never ran a sex trafficking operation, then you may want to go back through this thread and others on the subject.



Its not the Dems making an issue out of this, its an issue because he claims to have "the most transparent administration in history" then throws tantrums when people want transparency on our government's involvement with pedophiles.
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flown-the-coop said:

Perhaps you just didn't read the post?

Quote:

...The Dems don't care about the victims, as proven by the fact that they never did before. This is merely another Democrat HOAX, just like Russia, Russia, Russia, and all of the others, in order to deflect and distract from the great success of a Republican President, and the record setting failure of the previous Administration, and the Democrat Party. The Department of Justice has done its job, they have given everything requested of them. It's time to end the Democrat Epstein Hoax,

Seems he is pretty specific calling the Dems making an issue out of this at this time being the hoax.

Has Trump ever said Epstein and Maxwell were good people and he was ready to welcome them back to M-A-L? Has he disparaged the victims? If I recall, he was the only one or one of the only ones to sit down willingly to an interview on Epstein (cannot remember if it was investigators or lawyers).

So if you actually think Trump is saying that Epstein never ran a sex trafficking operation, then you may want to go back through this thread and others on the subject.

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Which was about 2 years after Virginia Guiffre worked in the Mar a Lago spa and Trump got mad about Epstein stealing his workers.


I'm Gipper
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PaulsBunions said:

flown-the-coop said:

Perhaps you just didn't read the post?

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...The Dems don't care about the victims, as proven by the fact that they never did before. This is merely another Democrat HOAX, just like Russia, Russia, Russia, and all of the others, in order to deflect and distract from the great success of a Republican President, and the record setting failure of the previous Administration, and the Democrat Party. The Department of Justice has done its job, they have given everything requested of them. It's time to end the Democrat Epstein Hoax,

Seems he is pretty specific calling the Dems making an issue out of this at this time being the hoax.

Has Trump ever said Epstein and Maxwell were good people and he was ready to welcome them back to M-A-L? Has he disparaged the victims? If I recall, he was the only one or one of the only ones to sit down willingly to an interview on Epstein (cannot remember if it was investigators or lawyers).

So if you actually think Trump is saying that Epstein never ran a sex trafficking operation, then you may want to go back through this thread and others on the subject.



Its not the Dems making an issue out of this, its an issue because he claims to have "the most transparent administration in history" then throws tantrums when people want transparency on our government's involvement with pedophiles.


He could never again mention the Epstein files nor release anything, and still be by leaps and bounds the most transparent Prez ever. Because he doesn't pacify you on this does not move the needle on the statement.
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Deerdude said:

PaulsBunions said:

flown-the-coop said:

Perhaps you just didn't read the post?

Quote:

...The Dems don't care about the victims, as proven by the fact that they never did before. This is merely another Democrat HOAX, just like Russia, Russia, Russia, and all of the others, in order to deflect and distract from the great success of a Republican President, and the record setting failure of the previous Administration, and the Democrat Party. The Department of Justice has done its job, they have given everything requested of them. It's time to end the Democrat Epstein Hoax,

Seems he is pretty specific calling the Dems making an issue out of this at this time being the hoax.

Has Trump ever said Epstein and Maxwell were good people and he was ready to welcome them back to M-A-L? Has he disparaged the victims? If I recall, he was the only one or one of the only ones to sit down willingly to an interview on Epstein (cannot remember if it was investigators or lawyers).

So if you actually think Trump is saying that Epstein never ran a sex trafficking operation, then you may want to go back through this thread and others on the subject.



Its not the Dems making an issue out of this, its an issue because he claims to have "the most transparent administration in history" then throws tantrums when people want transparency on our government's involvement with pedophiles.


He could never again mention the Epstein files nor release anything, and still be by leaps and bounds the most transparent Prez ever. Because he doesn't pacify you on this does not move the needle on the statement.


I'm saying you can't make a commitment to transparency then get mad when people want transparency.
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flown-the-coop said:

Tea Party said:

Where Trump (and his cult like followers) really screw up on the messaging is by calling this a hoax and constantly playing it down. There is absolutely zero downside in releasing everything unredacted to the public, other than the obvious grotesque and potential victim naming details.

When they play it down and say people need to move on and quit caring about this when the public has not seen a bow put on this issue, it raises a lot of red flags and erodes trust in the administration and his "move on from Epstein" supporters.

This is where the criticizers show themselves.

Not playing it UP is not the same as playing it DOWN.

Saying there are larger things to focus on now is not the same as not caring.

So no, it does not and should not raise any red flags.

Trying to keep this as front page news is a tactic of the left (and Massie). Not much negative to bang on Trump's first month in office so they focus on what they can.

Does not excuse the mishandling by Bondi and Trump. To me, its a snooze until they release it all or make some additional arrests.

Folks should be able to see right through Massie-Khanna nonsense but they don't. They think there is something new in their requests, what they are saying. There is not.

But Trump could end this by putting it all out there, every pixel, pecker, pimp, paper, payment, piss tape there is, unredacted. And those interested can sort through at their leisure.

The president tweeted about it today. If he wants it to go away maybe don't bring it up? Oh, right, it's economy numbers day so start slinging mud.


Y'all need to wake up real fast to the fact that this admin played everyone and is hiding some dirty ass secrets. If I'm die hard maga I want these files released to see all the democrats, surely?

The only excuse I see is, they know Trump is in there. What does that say?
J. Walter Weatherman
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Yep. And if their reaction to people wanting transparency is to go full Baghdad Bob "nothing to see here, everyone move on" then people are going to understandably question what's being hidden.
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Gig em G said:

flown-the-coop said:

Perhaps you just didn't read the post?

Quote:

...The Dems don't care about the victims, as proven by the fact that they never did before. This is merely another Democrat HOAX, just like Russia, Russia, Russia, and all of the others, in order to deflect and distract from the great success of a Republican President, and the record setting failure of the previous Administration, and the Democrat Party. The Department of Justice has done its job, they have given everything requested of them. It's time to end the Democrat Epstein Hoax,

Seems he is pretty specific calling the Dems making an issue out of this at this time being the hoax.

Has Trump ever said Epstein and Maxwell were good people and he was ready to welcome them back to M-A-L? Has he disparaged the victims? If I recall, he was the only one or one of the only ones to sit down willingly to an interview on Epstein (cannot remember if it was investigators or lawyers).

So if you actually think Trump is saying that Epstein never ran a sex trafficking operation, then you may want to go back through this thread and others on the subject.




https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/04/trump-well-wishes-ghislaine-maxwell-391274
On Maxwell:
Quote:

. . . " Yeah, I wish her well," he said. "I'd wish you well. I'd wish a lot of people well. Good luck. Let them prove somebody was guilty." . . .


This was in August 2020. Epstein pled guilty to charges in 2008, was arrested again in 2019, and committed suicide/was killed (depending on your preference) that same year.

Saying "let them prove somebody was guilty" was pretty cheeky while wishing Maxwell well.
FWTXAg
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Marjorie Taylor Green is gunning for the Presidency and she's a copperhead. She's gonna bury Trump/Vance over this.
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FWTXAg said:

Marjorie Taylor Green is gunning for the Presidency and she's a copperhead.

like I'm gunning to play QB for A&M one day.

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She's gonna bury Trump/Vance over this.

she couldn't bury a dead squirrel if you dug the hole for her
FWTXAg
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BMX Bandit said:

FWTXAg said:

Marjorie Taylor Green is gunning for the Presidency and she's a copperhead.

like I'm gunning to play QB for A&M one day.

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She's gonna bury Trump/Vance over this.

she couldn't bury a dead squirrel if you dug the hole for her


I used to think so too. Not anymore
aginlakeway
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FWTXAg said:

Marjorie Taylor Green is gunning for the Presidency and she's a copperhead. She's gonna bury Trump/Vance over this.


What do you mean bury?
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FWTXAg said:

Marjorie Taylor Green is gunning for the Presidency and she's a copperhead. She's gonna bury Trump/Vance over this.

Me agreeing with MTG is the weirdest part of this entire thing for me
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aginlakeway said:

FWTXAg said:

Marjorie Taylor Green is gunning for the Presidency and she's a copperhead. She's gonna bury Trump/Vance over this.


What do you mean bury?



What do you mean what do I mean?

This is fun.
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FWTXAg said:

aginlakeway said:

FWTXAg said:

Marjorie Taylor Green is gunning for the Presidency and she's a copperhead. She's gonna bury Trump/Vance over this.


What do you mean bury?



What do you mean what do I mean?

This is fun.


100% agree! This is fun!

Still curious what you mean by bury.
Im Gipper
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He means dig a hole and dump dirt on top of them. Duh.


What else could he possibly mean!?!??!

I'm Gipper
aginlakeway
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Im Gipper said:

He means dig a hole and dump dirt on top of them. Duh.


What else could he possibly mean!?!??!


So she's a ditch digger then?

This is fun.
Who?mikejones!
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Of course, mtg doesn't really have any reputation to cast aspersions. So, im notnsure how much burying she'll be able to acoomplish
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Who?mikejones! said:

Of course, mtg doesn't really have any reputation to cast aspersions. So, im notnsure how much burying she'll be able to acoomplish

She's working on gaining one right now. She and her camp have seen the line in the sand and they've recognized that Trump and Vance (her oppoenent in the next primary) won't cross it. She is, we'll see if it works.
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ETFan said:

The president tweeted about it today. If he wants it to go away maybe don't bring it up? Oh, right, it's economy numbers day so start slinging mud.


Y'all need to wake up real fast to the fact that this admin played everyone and is hiding some dirty ass secrets. If I'm die hard maga I want these files released to see all the democrats, surely?

The only excuse I see is, they know Trump is in there. What does that say?

Says the parties of corpse POTUS, DEI hires including VPOTUS, PressSec, health admiral, and rigged primaries and elections.

Release the files. All of MAGA says to release the files. Sorry Trump's schedule doesn't match your whines.
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ETFan said:

FWTXAg said:

Marjorie Taylor Green is gunning for the Presidency and she's a copperhead. She's gonna bury Trump/Vance over this.

Me agreeing with MTG is the weirdest part of this entire thing for me

Its says a lot more about MTG than it does about you. So it should only be weird for MTG and her people.
 
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