DOJ: Epstein killed himself, no client list

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aggiegolfer2012
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In reply to Rockdoc • 10:43p, 7/26/25
I've learned a lot the last month. If you don't support a $1.7 trillion deficit and covering up sex crimes, you're a democrat……

Y'all have a lot of blind trust in a guy that let Fauci run the country for 9 months.
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In reply to 74OA • 10:45p, 7/26/25
74OA said:
Nonsense of course, but funny, nonetheless.



This would be a tiny tit for the mountain of tat thrown at trump in the last decade. Anyone unhappy with the state of things can thank the dems for opening Pandora's box starting in roughly 2016. It's a race to the bottom. Thanks dems.
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In reply to aggiegolfer2012 • 10:49p, 7/26/25
aggiegolfer2012 said:
I've learned a lot the last month. If you don't support a $1.7 trillion deficit and covering up sex crimes, you're a democrat……

Y'all have a lot of blind trust in a guy that let Fauci run the country for 9 months.


Glad to see you're finally all in on the anti fauci bandwagon. Which party saw the light shortly after the lies became evident and which party still wears masks?
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In reply to Aglaw97 • 10:59p, 7/26/25
Aglaw97 said:
Trump is a great president. I've supported him for years. However he isn't infallible. The handling of the Epstein matter has been a joke thus far.


Dems refuse to consider Trump's innocence because of their illogical reasoning & refusal to admit basic facts, which are Epstein's most serious indictment was during Trump's term, & Trump passed laws that would incriminate him as well if he was indeed a trafficking Pedo, so you can bet the Dems would've made that case during Biden's term since they tried everything else- UNLESS it was gonna be too messy for them to do so!

IMHO, Trump has been nails thus far, as every doom & gloom hypothetical has been proven wrong, & his efforts to actually take down the "Deep State" that TRIED every way to take him out may prove legendary; therefore, I'm not quite sure I want to be overly critical of his & the Repubs' handling of Epstein just yet.

Maybe it's a carefully timed trap that'll be sprung when ready, a big nothing burger, OR it's so jolting to every govt'l, social, financial, & religious institution that it's in the public's interest to not be made known (although hopefully remedied discretely).

I agree it seems like an apparent 'fumble'; is that by design or just a huge F-up? I pray time provides a complete answer.
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In reply to aggiegolfer2012 • 8:16a, 7/27/25
aggiegolfer2012 said:
You'd be saying the exact opposite if a person with a (d) after their name was doing the same thing Trump is doing.
Instead you're claiming he's playing 8d chess and calling the people that are being consistent on their views (regardless of who is president) liberals because dear leader said so.


In the real world many are disgusted that Clinton has been given the biggest hall pass. The disgusted don't spend so much effort bleeding out about the Clintons. But you do you with whatever lame narrative you willfully consume as gospel. Enjoy your Kool Aid filled to the brim delusional innuendo. And yes, it's sad to see so many Americans gaslit into submission and unable to see through the lefts' BS.
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8:46a, 7/27/25
The Swamp is back!
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No Spin Ag
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In reply to Burpelson • 9:47a, 7/27/25
Burpelson said:
The Swamp is back!


"Back?"

You think just because it's "My guy," in the WH that it means it's ever really gone?

If this issue has shown, even to the strongest/fringest(?) of maga is that even the guy who could "Shoot someone...not lose one supporter", is at least being seen in a bit of a different light by them. And in this political climate, and for this person (Trump), that's saying something.

So, no, the swamp isn't back, it's always been here, the wool was just being pulled and all that.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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In reply to bobbranco • 10:11a, 7/27/25
bobbranco said:
J. Walter Weatherman said:
Hopefully we do learn there wasn't a client list and Epstein was more or less alone in his actions


Exactly what Trump and Bondi stated. And they will NOT release the massive Epstein child porn collection.


Welp that's that then! Case closed. Hundreds of victims and it was just Maxwell and Epstein. No other high profile celebs, Clintons, etc. involved and we can all take Trump and co's word for it and move on.
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In reply to J. Walter Weatherman • 10:15a, 7/27/25
J. Walter Weatherman said:
bobbranco said:
J. Walter Weatherman said:
Hopefully we do learn there wasn't a client list and Epstein was more or less alone in his actions


Exactly what Trump and Bondi stated. And they will NOT release the massive Epstein child porn collection.


Welp that's that then! Case closed. Hundreds of victims and it was just Maxwell and Epstein. No other high profile celebs, Clintons, etc. involved and we can all take Trump and co's word for it and move on.

It makes wonder just why Trump, who showed support for the full release before getting in the WH no longer wants to even talk about it.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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10:48a, 7/27/25
Thos epstein file must be so nuclear that its radius of destruction is just to much for this administration, the amount of flailing and spastic gnashing looks really creepy to the masses.
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In reply to Ag CPA • 10:48a, 7/27/25
Ag CPA said:
OPAG said:
Let me tell ya how this is going to go.

Those that think Trump is stupid and impetuous and just fly's off the handle and has no ability to message or is just trying to CHA, are the same group that has been heavily gaslighted and programmed with TDS or they are the old guard Rino's seeking to divide the "Maga" camp.

Look at the timing of all this? Why did they have to even bring Epstein up at all at the time they did? You think it's just random coincidence? If you think that your are not very bright and have limited powers of critical / analytical thinking.

If you think the timing of the release of Bondi's message was just random, well, I don't know what to say.

And do you think Trump's response at the press meeting (as bad as it looked - was just a random melt down?

Again if you think that I can't help you.

Nothing done concerning this subject has been random or haphazard. They know this was a big deal to many in MAGA. Trump and team knew there was going to be a bruhah over the way he responded.

So what really happened here is that they drew the left into this. They can't resist. He threw them a steak and they couldn't help but pounce! And He and the team surely knew they would. I think they were area that there would be quite a response from MAGA as well. They are not dumb!

So what's going to happen here, is that the whole Epstein stuff will come out at the same time all the conspiracy stuff drops.

And what it is going to do is show that Trump personally is not part of the Pedo or any other of the nefarious aspects of Epstein. It will incriminate many on the left, and it will be a double whamy for them.

Wait and see.

lol, this sounds like something straight from the infamous QAnon thread.
I'm old enough to remember this poster as probably the single most prolific "contributor" to the Q thread, looks like old habits and beliefs die hard

trump will be dead and buried 10 years and we'll still be hearing "wait and see, this is all part of trump's master plan"
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In reply to No Spin Ag • 10:51a, 7/27/25
It implicates him, as well as a lot of people in positions of power in other countries. The fall out would be massive.
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 10:52a, 7/27/25
flown-the-coop said:
Yet no one can find the proof? You serious? Who the **** is protecting Trump? Who?
oh you know, just the person in charge of the entire department of justice, and the director/deputy director of the fbi. trump is the swamp now.
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In reply to Old McDonald • 11:03a, 7/27/25
Old McDonald said:
flown-the-coop said:
Yet no one can find the proof? You serious? Who the **** is protecting Trump? Who?
oh you know, just the person in charge of the entire department of justice, and the director/deputy director of the fbi. trump is the swamp now.

You're gonna be so disappointed. Can't wait. You should be concerned with your own dem party.
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11:06a, 7/27/25
You liberals still have not addressed the single most important question in this saga. "Why didn't they get released earlier when the left had control?"

Someone said earlier "cause they wanted to protect Bill Clinton" which might be the single most ridiculous proclamation in all of this. There is literally no way they wouldn't have expended Bill Clinton as collateral damage if it meant stopping Trump. I mean, literally no freaking way.

OBAMA's ENTIRE FREAKING ADMINISTRATION COLLUDED AND CONSPIRED TO INVENT SOME NON-SENSICAL RUSSIA HOAX, EXPOSING ALL OF THEM TO TREASON AND SEDITION CHARGES AND A LIFETIME IN PRISON IF CAUGHT!

But hurting Bill Clinton was a line they weren't willing to cross?????

My God liberals are pathetic.
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In reply to nomadic_ag • 11:28a, 7/27/25
nomadic_ag said:
It implicates him, as well as a lot of people in positions of power in other countries. The fall out would be massive.


Ah, now things are making more sense.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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In reply to Juan Lee Pettimore • 12:06p, 7/27/25
Juan Lee Pettimore said:
You liberals still have not addressed the single most important question in this saga. "Why didn't they get released earlier when the left had control?"

Someone said earlier "cause they wanted to protect Bill Clinton" which might be the single most ridiculous proclamation in all of this. There is literally no way they wouldn't have expended Bill Clinton as collateral damage if it meant stopping Trump. I mean, literally no freaking way.

OBAMA's ENTIRE FREAKING ADMINISTRATION COLLUDED AND CONSPIRED TO INVENT SOME NON-SENSICAL RUSSIA HOAX, EXPOSING ALL OF THEM TO TREASON AND SEDITION CHARGES AND A LIFETIME IN PRISON IF CAUGHT!

But hurting Bill Clinton was a line they weren't willing to cross?????

My God liberals are pathetic.


Trump admin arrested Epstein and indicted Maxwell, yet she slept on the trump info (her get out of jail free card) the entire Biden presidency. And the files implicate Trump and Maxwell had knowledge of this. But biden, the dems and media never cared about Epstein the entire time. Didn't 'leak' anything in the files. Didn't even try to get Maxwell to talk. Now, 6 months into trump's presidency, they've tried to unseal the grand jury testimony (request denied) and are seeking to speak to Maxwell. And by all accounts (including trumps and epsteins), trump and Epstein weren't friends after the 2005/6 time frame. But now if she does NOT implicate trump (the person that arrested her and Epstein and not a friend), then she is lying (per the dems). 2005/6 was around the time the first allegations surfaced (which were generally kept under wraps).

One would think that someone that believed trump colluded with Russian, covid came from bats, the vaccine was "safe free and effective," would consider whether their logic and reasoning skills (at least trump related) don't work quite so well. One would think that those same people might realize that the main places they get their info have actually been lying to them (not just biased). Yet its a perfect circle Venn diagram for people that think trump colluded with Russia and that trump is implicated in all the Epstein files
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1:28p, 7/27/25
Massie teaming up with Ro Khanna to bash his party on Welkers Sunday propaganda show.

Classless ass clowns both of them, both in it for themselves. Massie cares about himself, his "careers as a swamp critter, and could give two ****s about protecting children.

Also, Massie supports a pardon of Ghislaine, Ro against it.

Bizarre. Massie is not to be trusted.
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 1:49p, 7/27/25
Thumbs up for Thomas Massie. And Rand Paul.

**** the sycophants. Do what is right.
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In reply to f1ghtintexasaggie • 1:51p, 7/27/25
Who are the sycophants?

Rand Paul and Massie are about Rand Paul and Massie, nothing else.

But cheer for them. Might as well cheer for Kamala to replace Trump.
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In reply to J. Walter Weatherman • 4:10p, 7/27/25
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The "files are doctored" theory breaks down pretty quickly under any real scrutiny. 1. It's not nearly as easy as the movies would make it seem. 2. Let's say "they" doctored them to add Trump in, why wouldn't the files be released before the election? 3. At no point before their "there is no client list" memo did the admin say "we have a client list but we think it may have been planted/edited" etc. Instead it just said "there is no list, move on." If Kash thought "they" deleted the list, that's what he would have said.

Hopefully we do learn there wasn't a client list and Epstein was more or less alone in his actions, and the conspiracy was just used to drive up the base. But the sloppiness of how this has been handled definitely isn't giving me confidence we'll know the full story.


These aren;t exactly new files.

So let me ask you a question, do you believe that there was no meddling, altering or destroying of any of the JFK or RFK files? I think you are naive if you believe that.

We know that Hillary used bleach on hard dries, Phones have been smashed. It is not so much that they can add stuff, that's really hard to do. But destroy or alter stuff, happens all the time. Come on don't be naive here.
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In reply to OPAG • 4:19p, 7/27/25
Your reply reminds me of a joke.

A JFK conspiracy theorist dies and goes to heaven, when he arrives at the Pearly Gates, God is there to receive him.

"Welcome. You are permitted to ask me one question, which I will answer truthfully."

Without hesitating, the conspiracy theorist asks, "Who really shot Kennedy?"

God replies, "Lee Harvey Oswald shot him from sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository. There were no accomplices. He acted alone"

The conspiracy theorist pauses, thinks to himself, then says "Geez!!! This goes higher up than I thought..."

At the end of the day Trump did this to himself by fueling conspiracies throughout his public life, the chickens have come home to roost.
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In reply to OPAG • 4:20p, 7/27/25
For clarification, Hilldawg used BleachBit on the hard drives. Regular bleach is what Trump told you to mix with fish food and lightbulbs in order to cure COVID.
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In reply to GMaster0 • 4:22p, 7/27/25
What exactly has come home to roost?
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In reply to GMaster0 • 4:26p, 7/27/25
So you think Trump fuel's conspiracies? Really? Wow talk about delusion.
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In reply to Rockdoc • 4:35p, 7/27/25
There is literally a Wikipedia page dedicated to Trump promoting conspiracies.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories_promoted_by_Donald_Trump


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In reply to GMaster0 • 4:39p, 7/27/25
GMaster0 said:
There is literally a Wikipedia page dedicated to Trump promoting conspiracies.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories_promoted_by_Donald_Trump




Yeah that will show everyone.
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In reply to austinAG90 • 4:51p, 7/27/25
Ahhhh yes facts....well we all have our strengths.
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In reply to GMaster0 • 4:53p, 7/27/25
GMaster0 said:
There is literally a Wikipedia page dedicated to Trump promoting conspiracies.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories_promoted_by_Donald_Trump



Please, you dems are the kings of conspiracy and being on the losing end. Try again.
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In reply to Rockdoc • 4:56p, 7/27/25
Rockdoc said:
So you think Trump fuel's conspiracies? Really? Wow talk about delusion.


Literally the only reason people were still talking about Epstein is because he and his parrots kept it alive.
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In reply to aggiegolfer2012 • 4:58p, 7/27/25
aggiegolfer2012 said:
Rockdoc said:
So you think Trump fuel's conspiracies? Really? Wow talk about delusion.


Literally the only reason people were still talking about Epstein is because he and his parrots kept it alive.

If this is all you guys have, it's not worth the time.
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In reply to Rockdoc • 5:12p, 7/27/25
Well, the reason we don't have more is because the guy who said he'd release everything lied.
That's not suspicious at all……
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In reply to aggiegolfer2012 • 5:24p, 7/27/25
Absolutely, and as with anything Trump he is guilty of the most heinous of things your mind can imagine or what Reddit can come up with, and he remains guilty until he can prove himself innocent beyond any doubt.

America! No one above the law! Amiright?!
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6:47p, 7/27/25
I sort of agree with others that either:
1. This is one of the biggest pedo rings ever and the scope is just too big to take on, or …
2. Trump is right and there's nothing else in the files besides Epstein and Maxwell.

But there's a third possibility. There are a few other names in the files, but there's not enough evidence to act on.

But in case 2 or 3, nothing else is going to be made available. That first option, that this pedo ring is massive and involves a bunch of foreign players and so on is starting to seem more and more unlikely.
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7:12p, 7/27/25
There's two legal cases involving Epstein that beg questions of who knew what. One when he was a senior officer at a financial company in NYC involving one of the largest ponzi schemes ever and he wasn't investigated. Then later in his own trial in 2008 in Florida when he got the sweetheart deal despite all the evidence he was running a sex trafficking ring involving minors. His protected status in those two cases scream to me there was involvement from various government elites. I personally think Israel is involved and has a huge hand in all of this. Just my opinion based on public knowledge made available about Epstein.
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