Yeah right, the court cases were legitimate and not political. Give me a break.
DOJ: Epstein killed himself, no client list
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SgtStiglitz said:sincereag said:AgDev01 said:
do you mean the ones he sexually assaulted or the ones he paid for?
I missed that news. When did Trump sexually assault someone or get arrested for solicitation of prostitution?
How is this a question? He's been accused in court 25 times and convicted once. He probably should've been convicted the other 25 times. How many more times does he need to be convicted or accused? Where there's smoke there's fire. Some people will only be convinced if they watch a video of him him committing SA.
sincereag said:
It seems everyone is more interested in the Epstein sex trafficking ring of minors involving the elites versus the money laundering schemes that Epstein and our government carried out to cost taxpayers billions.
Yep, just like everyone was interested in masks and vaccines, instead of who was culpable in GoF and how it leaked from lab. Its by design.
Trump liked beautiful women, but I don't believe for a second he ever committed sexual assault. If walking into a girl's dressing room at a beauty pageant is considered sexual assault, then he should have been arrested. Why wasn't he immediately arrested? Where was security or the police at this event? I agree that Trump is brash and stupid with his words at times, but until someone produces evidence of actual sexual assault, how can you convict him?
sincereag said:
Trump liked beautiful women, but I don't believe for a second he ever committed sexual assault. If walking into a girl's dressing room at a beauty pageant is considered sexual assault, then he should have been arrested. Why wasn't he immediately arrested? Where was security or the police at this event? I agree that Trump is brash and stupid with his words at times, but until someone produces evidence of actual sexual assault, how can you convict him?
Is it the decades of evidence of his upstanding moral code that makes you think this is beyond the realm of possibility? Do you ever look around and think "huh, I wonder if I'm in a cult".
I want to be clear that I don't give two flying ****s who the evidence points to, if anyone. I want anyone involved to defend themselves in court, and then swing. If it turns out to be most of DC, time to clean out the real swamp. But Donald is working overtime to make sure we don't see who's involved, and that's pretty suspect. I don't believe for one second he's doing it to protect the innocent.
Sid Farkas said:
for the umpteenth time itt: if there was a shred of evidence against Trump, it would've been leaked during his first term.
This. And if not the first term, when he was running for the second term For gods sake they tried to orchestrate multiple assassination attempts, weaponized the intelligence agencies and fabricated a story that amounted to an attempted coup….but Epstein was a bridge too far?
Nobody cares. Work Harder
Yep, it does look like the POTUS is protecting someone and giving immunity to a convicted sex trafficker and known perjurer is making peoples stomach churn.
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*Not saying Trump did anything illegal. But none of us should be surprised if a NYC RE tycoon banged some Epstein peddled young adult escort in the 80s.
As long as we're just speculating...then I have a speculative rebuttal.
Look at the type of women trump Bangs: Tall, long-legged euro model women. There is absolutely nothing nubile about Ivana, Marla Maples and certainly Melania. Juxtapose with world class pedo Woody Allen who married girlish Mia Farrow and his Asian step daughter. Those are glaring red flags and would be a 'tell' if we were recklessly speculating. Trump has nothing like that.
My use of term "Epstein peddled young adult escort" covers a broad range of female types, including those that might be Trump's taste. It excludes underage females, bc that is a serious offense that shouldn't be speculated on. The "nubile" point is a stretch, maybe he would turn down an immature 19 or 20 year old escort...but there are also dressed up 18 year olds that dont look that nubile.
But my overall point is that Trump banging escorts in 80s or early 90s is irrelevant. Its not important to the Epstein conspiracy. Its just another dumb Jean Carroll or Stormy Daniels smear.
The good news is its unlikely any grandma wants to now come out and admit she was an 80s hooker, and deal with half the county hating her for spinning a consensual monetary transaction into "assault" or something more damaging to Trump.
But my overall point is that Trump banging escorts in 80s or early 90s is irrelevant. Its not important to the Epstein conspiracy. Its just another dumb Jean Carroll or Stormy Daniels smear.
The good news is its unlikely any grandma wants to now come out and admit she was an 80s hooker, and deal with half the county hating her for spinning a consensual monetary transaction into "assault" or something more damaging to Trump.
cmag said:HTownAg98 said:Rockdoc said:HTownAg98 said:Im Gipper said:
Over. Easy.
MAGA will manage to twist themselves into knots that pardoning Maxwell is a good thing, not realizing that Trump being associated with a pedophile will somehow (?) go away by pardoning someone that aided a pedophile.
You're trying too hard. Just because they were once friends doesn't mean he was a pedofile. Libs all think alike.
Your reading comprehension is ass. Show me where I said that I think Trump is a pedophile.
I'll say it. Trump is probably a pedo. Bill is most assuredly a pedo. More people than we care to imagine in power are probably pedos. Stop trying to cover for them.
Me? Covering for Trump?? You must be new here.
So where are we on this issue?
Well, if you we are going to bring in Woody Allen then we cannot ignore the Hollywood folks who had Brooke Shields performing in her birthday suit in Pretty Baby and Blue Lagoon… at the age of 12 and 14 respectively.
It's another day that ends in y and another bunch of posts (not yours) wanting to get trump and willfully ignoring broader sex trafficking issues.
At least Trump continues to push for justice.
It's another day that ends in y and another bunch of posts (not yours) wanting to get trump and willfully ignoring broader sex trafficking issues.
At least Trump continues to push for justice.
Kinda funny how there's really only about two lib posters on this site, who also have about ten socks each, who will turbo-star the most random lib posts blue to make it look like their opinions are mainstream.
Im Gipper said:
Under no circumstance, should a pardon ever be on the table.
If she were to provide evidence that would convict multiple people, then you can talk about commuting her sentence at some point.
Despite the new attempts by some out there to paint her as a victim, make no mistake she is a monster.
A better question is why DOJ is meeting with the trafficker instead of the victims.
Wouldn't the victims be able to offer firsthand testimony as to who their abusers are?
Or is DOJ using Maxwell to distract its critics with rumors of a pardon.
74OA said:Im Gipper said:
Under no circumstance, should a pardon ever be on the table.
If she were to provide evidence that would convict multiple people, then you can talk about commuting her sentence at some point.
Despite the new attempts by some out there to paint her as a victim, make no mistake she is a monster.
A better question is why DOJ is meeting with the trafficker instead of the victims.
Wouldn't the victims be able to offer firsthand testimony as to who their abusers are?
Or is DOJ using Maxwell to distract its critics with rumors of a pardon.
Maybe because when they do actually speak out, they are dismissed as being only politically motivated, and they are alone up against very powerful, wealthy, and influential people that have the resources to ensure that they are never taken seriously in the media?
They have already meet with victims. They know names. The Maxwell and Epstein indictments both say "known and unknown conspirators".
DoJ has chosen not to prosecute. (Not just this one, all of them). Maybe it's lack of evidence, maybe they are too powerful Who knows. I lean towards the former, but the latter would not be a surprise at all.
The grand jury motions and meeting Maxwell are just fodder trying to win back the weirdo Twitter "Infleuncers".
Epstein is over. No one else is getting arrested, nothing is going to be uncovered.
I'm Gipper
DoJ has chosen not to prosecute. (Not just this one, all of them). Maybe it's lack of evidence, maybe they are too powerful Who knows. I lean towards the former, but the latter would not be a surprise at all.
The grand jury motions and meeting Maxwell are just fodder trying to win back the weirdo Twitter "Infleuncers".
Epstein is over. No one else is getting arrested, nothing is going to be uncovered.
I'm Gipper
SgtStiglitz said:
Here's how it's about to go down:
Ghislaine names a bunch of Democrats, maybe tosses in a few billionaires.
She says Trump did nothing wrong.
MAGA praises her for "taking down the pedophiles."
Trump pardons her… for "telling the truth."
This is how I see this going down, too. Trump offering her a pardon to avoid naming Republicans and Trump himself. MAGA goes wild to lap it up.
Juan Lee Pettimore said:
Kinda funny how there's really only about two lib posters on this site, who also have about ten socks each, who will turbo-star the most random lib posts blue to make it look like their opinions are mainstream.
Like I said before, it must be EXHAUSTING to be a lib.
See post below yours as to why they are gonna hang onto it as long as possible. The delusion is just too strong.
Rockdoc said:
See post below yours as to why they are gonna hang onto it as long as possible. The delusion is just too strong.
Providing cover for a guy trying to brush a sex trafficking ring that focused on minors is definitely something to brag about. Anyone involved with this, left and right, needs to be sent to a gulag. These were children.
t_J_e_C_x said:Rockdoc said:
See post below yours as to why they are gonna hang onto it as long as possible. The delusion is just too strong.
Providing cover for a guy trying to brush a sex trafficking ring that focused on minors is definitely something to brag about. Anyone involved with this, left and right, needs to be sent to a gulag. These were children.
we need assurances that there are stiff sanctions against the living ringleaders too: Les wexner, and individuals within mossad and (likely) American intelligence...and those who have aided in the ongoing coverup
t_J_e_C_x said:Rockdoc said:
See post below yours as to why they are gonna hang onto it as long as possible. The delusion is just too strong.
Providing cover for a guy trying to brush a sex trafficking ring that focused on minors is definitely something to brag about. Anyone involved with this, left and right, needs to be sent to a gulag. These were children.
Let's see your proof
Soon as the Trump admin and Rs choose to release the files....
Sid Farkas said:t_J_e_C_x said:Rockdoc said:
See post below yours as to why they are gonna hang onto it as long as possible. The delusion is just too strong.
Providing cover for a guy trying to brush a sex trafficking ring that focused on minors is definitely something to brag about. Anyone involved with this, left and right, needs to be sent to a gulag. These were children.
we need assurances that there are stiff sanctions against the living ringleaders too: Les wexner, and individuals within mossad and (likely) American intelligence.
If they're in America, they should be arrested, not "sanctioned". If they're abroad, then I agree with sanctions.
I wouldn't even be mad if they (USA) went all Ricardo Klement on those abroad that were directly involved.
Ag_of_08 said:
Soon as the Trump admin and Rs choose to release the files....
I can't wait!
Gouveia does a deeper dive on who testified at Maxwell's trial. Victims, Epstein employees, pilots, assistants, etc.
Prosperdick said:Juan Lee Pettimore said:
Kinda funny how there's really only about two lib posters on this site, who also have about ten socks each, who will turbo-star the most random lib posts blue to make it look like their opinions are mainstream.
Like I said before, it must be EXHAUSTING to be a lib.
Blue Anon is alive and well.
For 4 years we had their hysteria over Russia, Russia Russia.
Now it is going to be 4 years of Epstein, Epstein, Epstein.
And it is more than just 2 libs here. Whenever they think they've got something to spike the ball over, we get a flood of them from Premium, most of who whom have never, or rarely, posted on F16 before.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
And CNN cutting off WH pressers and Tulbi Gabbard for spreading misinformation about Obama ordering the political hit on Trump.
Libs have learned nothing, which is good. Because Team Trump and MAGA spent 4 years doing homework and it shows.
We just need the left to remain focused on getting Trump, socialism and clamoring for global intifada and the midterms will be epic.
Libs have learned nothing, which is good. Because Team Trump and MAGA spent 4 years doing homework and it shows.
We just need the left to remain focused on getting Trump, socialism and clamoring for global intifada and the midterms will be epic.
Getting Trump is their only policy and platform. They don't give a crap about the country. People are taking note of this, according to their approval polls.
Let me tell ya how this is going to go.
Those that think Trump is stupid and impetuous and just fly's off the handle and has no ability to message or is just trying to CHA, are the same group that has been heavily gaslighted and programmed with TDS or they are the old guard Rino's seeking to divide the "Maga" camp.
Look at the timing of all this? Why did they have to even bring Epstein up at all at the time they did? You think it's just random coincidence? If you think that your are not very bright and have limited powers of critical / analytical thinking.
If you think the timing of the release of Bondi's message was just random, well, I don't know what to say.
And do you think Trump's response at the press meeting (as bad as it looked - was just a random melt down?
Again if you think that I can't help you.
Nothing done concerning this subject has been random or haphazard. They know this was a big deal to many in MAGA. Trump and team knew there was going to be a bruhah over the way he responded.
So what really happened here is that they drew the left into this. They can't resist. He threw them a steak and they couldn't help but pounce! And He and the team surely knew they would. I think they were area that there would be quite a response from MAGA as well. They are not dumb!
So what's going to happen here, is that the whole Epstein stuff will come out at the same time all the conspiracy stuff drops.
And what it is going to do is show that Trump personally is not part of the Pedo or any other of the nefarious aspects of Epstein. It will incriminate many on the left, and it will be a double whamy for them.
Wait and see.
Those that think Trump is stupid and impetuous and just fly's off the handle and has no ability to message or is just trying to CHA, are the same group that has been heavily gaslighted and programmed with TDS or they are the old guard Rino's seeking to divide the "Maga" camp.
Look at the timing of all this? Why did they have to even bring Epstein up at all at the time they did? You think it's just random coincidence? If you think that your are not very bright and have limited powers of critical / analytical thinking.
If you think the timing of the release of Bondi's message was just random, well, I don't know what to say.
And do you think Trump's response at the press meeting (as bad as it looked - was just a random melt down?
Again if you think that I can't help you.
Nothing done concerning this subject has been random or haphazard. They know this was a big deal to many in MAGA. Trump and team knew there was going to be a bruhah over the way he responded.
So what really happened here is that they drew the left into this. They can't resist. He threw them a steak and they couldn't help but pounce! And He and the team surely knew they would. I think they were area that there would be quite a response from MAGA as well. They are not dumb!
So what's going to happen here, is that the whole Epstein stuff will come out at the same time all the conspiracy stuff drops.
And what it is going to do is show that Trump personally is not part of the Pedo or any other of the nefarious aspects of Epstein. It will incriminate many on the left, and it will be a double whamy for them.
Wait and see.
"mr. president your supporters are really upset about your handling of the epstein case, what do we do?"Burpelson said:
Yep, it does look like the POTUS is protecting someone and giving immunity to a convicted sex trafficker and known perjurer is making peoples stomach churn.
"tell them the list doesn't exist!"
"ok we tried that and they didn't believe us, what next?"
"tell them they're stupid for caring and to move on"
"ok now they care even more, what do we do?"
"****, uhh, blame it on obama?"
"they've heard that one before sir, they aren't buying it"
"damn, okay, what if we pardon the only person in prison over the whole affair?"
"genius sir, art of the deal, surely this will work"
If the left had any brains they would go after Alex Acosta who is now on BOD at Newsmax. Blast him, and press Bondi on Esptein "belonging to intelligence."
The only way this Epstein stuff leads to accountability is if it first goes the direction of an Iran Contra or Fast and Furious type discovery. Otherwise, it all stalls out as a salacious pedo witchunt dead end. Which with each passing day, looks to be the path it stays on.
At this point, Ive seen no evidence to suggest Ghislaine has the ability to expose intel ties in her ongoing cooperation, or that it provides her any leverage. She did purposely go out in public with "Book of Honor: Secret Lives and Deaths of CIA Operatives", just a couple days after Epstein was killed. The odds of news on Epstein intel ties is only marginally better with Bondi, vs a Barr/Garland/Holder type.
*To be clear for Gipper, Im not making a legal arguement that GM being photod with a book is proof of Epstein intel ties
The only way this Epstein stuff leads to accountability is if it first goes the direction of an Iran Contra or Fast and Furious type discovery. Otherwise, it all stalls out as a salacious pedo witchunt dead end. Which with each passing day, looks to be the path it stays on.
At this point, Ive seen no evidence to suggest Ghislaine has the ability to expose intel ties in her ongoing cooperation, or that it provides her any leverage. She did purposely go out in public with "Book of Honor: Secret Lives and Deaths of CIA Operatives", just a couple days after Epstein was killed. The odds of news on Epstein intel ties is only marginally better with Bondi, vs a Barr/Garland/Holder type.
*To be clear for Gipper, Im not making a legal arguement that GM being photod with a book is proof of Epstein intel ties
I do think it'll "hang around" on Lib social media etc. But as a relevant event, it will be yesterday's news long before the midterms.
I wish they were arresting more people. I think it's sickening that both this administration and the previous are letting people walk. But nothing I can do is going to change that, so it's time to move on in my mind. There really isn't even anything left to discuss. I only popped on because I knew people would be clamoring about the " limited immunity" deal.
I'm Gipper
I wish they were arresting more people. I think it's sickening that both this administration and the previous are letting people walk. But nothing I can do is going to change that, so it's time to move on in my mind. There really isn't even anything left to discuss. I only popped on because I knew people would be clamoring about the " limited immunity" deal.
I'm Gipper
Old McDonald said:"mr. president your supporters are really upset about your handling of the epstein case, what do we do?"Burpelson said:
Yep, it does look like the POTUS is protecting someone and giving immunity to a convicted sex trafficker and known perjurer is making peoples stomach churn.
"tell them the list doesn't exist!"
"ok we tried that and they didn't believe us, what next?"
"tell them they're stupid for caring and to move on"
"ok now they care even more, what do we do?"
"****, uhh, blame it on obama?"
"they've heard that one before sir, they aren't buying it"
"damn, okay, what if we pardon the only person in prison over the whole affair?"
"genius sir, art of the deal, surely this will work"
You forgot "and make sure each of the 100 people she names is a Democrat, unless she wants to die in prison."
Ervin Burrell said:Old McDonald said:Burpelson said:
Yep, it does look like the POTUS is protecting someone and giving immunity to a convicted sex trafficker and known perjurer is making peoples stomach churn.
"mr. president your supporters are really upset about your handling of the epstein case, what do we do?"
"tell them the list doesn't exist!"
"ok we tried that and they didn't believe us, what next?"
"tell them they're stupid for caring and to move on"
"ok now they care even more, what do we do?"
"****, uhh, blame it on obama?"
"they've heard that one before sir, they aren't buying it"
"damn, okay, what if we pardon the only person in prison over the whole affair?"
"genius sir, art of the deal, surely this will work"
You forgot "and make sure each of the 100 people she names is a Democrat, unless she wants to die in prison."
Seems like you fellas have it sorted.
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